1 00:00:12,490 --> 00:00:20,230 [Music] 2 00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:23,590 thank you 3 00:00:30,890 --> 00:00:27,230 the smoke radio for the masses headline 4 00:00:32,810 --> 00:00:30,900 the best of July 8 1947 the Army Air 5 00:00:34,729 --> 00:00:32,820 Forces has announced that a flying disc 6 00:00:37,310 --> 00:00:34,739 has been found and is now in the 7 00:00:41,330 --> 00:00:37,320 possession of the army 8 00:00:44,090 --> 00:00:41,340 change the game game changer I 9 00:00:47,690 --> 00:00:44,100 occasionally think how quickly our 10 00:00:50,209 --> 00:00:47,700 difference is worldwide would vanish if 11 00:00:51,490 --> 00:00:50,219 we were facing an alien threat from 12 00:00:53,310 --> 00:00:51,500 outside this work 13 00:00:53,490 --> 00:00:53,320 [Music] 14 00:00:55,810 --> 00:00:53,500 [Applause] 15 00:00:58,729 --> 00:00:55,820 [Music] 16 00:01:01,610 --> 00:00:58,739 this is Fade to Black with your host 17 00:01:02,260 --> 00:01:01,620 Jimmy Church on the game changer Radio 18 00:01:06,310 --> 00:01:02,270 Network 19 00:01:10,010 --> 00:01:06,320 [Music] 20 00:01:12,950 --> 00:01:10,020 good evening Fade to Black 21 00:01:15,730 --> 00:01:12,960 how you doing Fade to Black today is 22 00:01:18,289 --> 00:01:15,740 Wednesday June 7th 23 00:01:22,249 --> 00:01:18,299 2023 and our guest tonight live from 24 00:01:25,550 --> 00:01:22,259 Australia Danny and John Knott is with 25 00:01:27,289 --> 00:01:25,560 us he's a film director and we're going 26 00:01:29,990 --> 00:01:27,299 to discuss some of his documentaries 27 00:01:33,289 --> 00:01:30,000 tonight Australian Skies uh making 28 00:01:36,830 --> 00:01:33,299 contact secret space the rise of the 29 00:01:39,710 --> 00:01:36,840 tr-3b and his new films a fractured 30 00:01:43,069 --> 00:01:39,720 realities part two and haunted skies and 31 00:01:44,990 --> 00:01:43,079 UFOs in the outback that and so much 32 00:01:48,410 --> 00:01:45,000 more tonight of course we know what's 33 00:01:51,410 --> 00:01:48,420 going on out there in the world of 34 00:01:54,469 --> 00:01:51,420 ufology and all of the breaking news and 35 00:01:57,770 --> 00:01:54,479 so with that let's just get straight to 36 00:02:01,969 --> 00:01:57,780 it tonight and say 37 00:02:04,270 --> 00:02:01,979 welcome Damian John nodd the the the 38 00:02:07,069 --> 00:02:04,280 director with three names 39 00:02:09,109 --> 00:02:07,079 [Laughter] 40 00:02:11,750 --> 00:02:09,119 good thanks Jimmy I'm great thanks Mike 41 00:02:14,210 --> 00:02:11,760 how how's yourself today well I I'm 42 00:02:18,229 --> 00:02:14,220 great but you know it's important to 43 00:02:21,110 --> 00:02:18,239 have John in there to separate you from 44 00:02:23,930 --> 00:02:21,120 all of the other Damien knots that are 45 00:02:26,210 --> 00:02:23,940 yeah because there's so many of them so 46 00:02:29,570 --> 00:02:26,220 yeah I just I need to be original as 47 00:02:35,390 --> 00:02:32,750 um listen uh we uh welcome to the 48 00:02:37,729 --> 00:02:35,400 program uh it's a very important thank 49 00:02:40,309 --> 00:02:37,739 you week as as everybody knows what's 50 00:02:42,949 --> 00:02:40,319 going on out there but uh I need to get 51 00:02:46,070 --> 00:02:42,959 the First Time guest disclaimer out of 52 00:02:47,809 --> 00:02:46,080 the way which is this Damien it's just 53 00:02:49,550 --> 00:02:47,819 you and I sitting on my couch having a 54 00:02:51,410 --> 00:02:49,560 conversation as friends and where that 55 00:02:53,750 --> 00:02:51,420 conversation starts and starts where it 56 00:02:56,890 --> 00:02:53,760 ends and ends but we're gonna end his 57 00:02:58,700 --> 00:02:56,900 friends there you go you ready 58 00:03:02,750 --> 00:02:58,710 yeah absolutely 59 00:03:06,770 --> 00:03:02,760 [Laughter] 60 00:03:11,330 --> 00:03:08,990 wow especially uh with the audience 61 00:03:14,270 --> 00:03:11,340 right now and and the world and and 62 00:03:17,630 --> 00:03:14,280 where we are in in the media the 63 00:03:19,910 --> 00:03:17,640 breaking news this week of course is uh 64 00:03:22,009 --> 00:03:19,920 a whistleblower has come forward his 65 00:03:26,530 --> 00:03:22,019 name is David grush 66 00:03:29,869 --> 00:03:26,540 uh making some pretty amazing claims and 67 00:03:34,850 --> 00:03:29,879 filed a complaint with uh I think one or 68 00:03:35,649 --> 00:03:34,860 maybe two IG offices and is sworn 69 00:03:38,830 --> 00:03:35,659 um 70 00:03:42,110 --> 00:03:38,840 sworn and signed off on these statements 71 00:03:47,770 --> 00:03:42,120 that uh the United States is in 72 00:03:51,530 --> 00:03:47,780 possession of intact flying saucers and 73 00:03:53,869 --> 00:03:51,540 alien Pilots right 74 00:03:56,210 --> 00:03:53,879 and and to quote him he said you know 75 00:03:58,670 --> 00:03:56,220 well if you have a craft you usually 76 00:04:03,770 --> 00:03:58,680 have to assume you have somebody flying 77 00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:03,780 it and those are his words not mine and 78 00:04:09,770 --> 00:04:06,560 some pretty other fantastic claims and 79 00:04:11,449 --> 00:04:09,780 it's very fluid I did I just got some 80 00:04:14,350 --> 00:04:11,459 more news 81 00:04:17,270 --> 00:04:14,360 um right before Showtime but anyway 82 00:04:19,390 --> 00:04:17,280 uh what do you think what do you think 83 00:04:22,730 --> 00:04:19,400 is uh going on 84 00:04:24,890 --> 00:04:22,740 okay I hate to be a bummer or a um a 85 00:04:27,110 --> 00:04:24,900 downer uh with this but I mean we've 86 00:04:29,210 --> 00:04:27,120 seen this time and time again uh you 87 00:04:31,310 --> 00:04:29,220 know since the 60s they've come out and 88 00:04:32,629 --> 00:04:31,320 it's they're trying to push you in a 89 00:04:33,350 --> 00:04:32,639 certain way well this is my belief 90 00:04:35,270 --> 00:04:33,360 anyway 91 00:04:36,950 --> 00:04:35,280 um you know as far as I'm concerned and 92 00:04:38,570 --> 00:04:36,960 and seeing some of the things going on 93 00:04:40,129 --> 00:04:38,580 behind the scenes you know since I've 94 00:04:42,170 --> 00:04:40,139 been public myself 95 00:04:44,930 --> 00:04:42,180 um yeah I realize it's not as 96 00:04:47,510 --> 00:04:44,940 straightforward as it seems and what 97 00:04:50,390 --> 00:04:47,520 I've seen um as far as I'm concerned 98 00:04:53,090 --> 00:04:50,400 anybody can come out with a story 99 00:04:55,129 --> 00:04:53,100 um and then without the evidence that's 100 00:04:57,830 --> 00:04:55,139 the actual critical part here there's no 101 00:05:01,010 --> 00:04:57,840 evidence uh no anything to back up this 102 00:05:04,909 --> 00:05:01,020 man's story just a piece of paper you 103 00:05:06,350 --> 00:05:04,919 signed off I find it unusual that uh the 104 00:05:08,270 --> 00:05:06,360 government or the people that be either 105 00:05:10,670 --> 00:05:08,280 keeping this under wraps or whatever the 106 00:05:12,469 --> 00:05:10,680 case may be um would actually say okay 107 00:05:14,090 --> 00:05:12,479 you can go out and talk about it but 108 00:05:16,370 --> 00:05:14,100 you're not allowed to have any evidence 109 00:05:20,030 --> 00:05:16,380 of it um I mean that's just opens the 110 00:05:22,730 --> 00:05:20,040 door for the Skeptics ridicule um and I 111 00:05:25,430 --> 00:05:22,740 just find it funny that most of the 112 00:05:28,969 --> 00:05:25,440 topic most of the subject itself uh is 113 00:05:31,310 --> 00:05:28,979 actually balls of light uh you know 114 00:05:33,110 --> 00:05:31,320 light phenomenon um you know and then 115 00:05:35,090 --> 00:05:33,120 you've got your cigar shaped craft and 116 00:05:38,150 --> 00:05:35,100 triangular shape craft and all that kind 117 00:05:39,950 --> 00:05:38,160 of stuff um you know 86 to 87 of the 118 00:05:42,110 --> 00:05:39,960 reports I get and what I've seen myself 119 00:05:44,390 --> 00:05:42,120 are balls of light of different shapes 120 00:05:46,550 --> 00:05:44,400 and so I'm finding it funny that they're 121 00:05:47,749 --> 00:05:46,560 trying to bring it back to metals and 122 00:05:50,270 --> 00:05:47,759 they're trying to bring it back to 123 00:05:52,370 --> 00:05:50,280 something mechanistic whereas the actual 124 00:05:55,310 --> 00:05:52,380 phenomenon itself is not a mechanistic 125 00:05:58,129 --> 00:05:55,320 phenomenon it doesn't follow principles 126 00:06:01,969 --> 00:05:58,139 of our law or anything like this it is 127 00:06:04,070 --> 00:06:01,979 so far beyond what we know so just 128 00:06:06,890 --> 00:06:04,080 bringing it back to metals and crash 129 00:06:08,029 --> 00:06:06,900 Metals um I I just find that very 130 00:06:10,189 --> 00:06:08,039 unusual 131 00:06:11,870 --> 00:06:10,199 um when that's not the actual phenomenon 132 00:06:13,189 --> 00:06:11,880 and that hasn't been the phenomenon for 133 00:06:15,290 --> 00:06:13,199 a long long time 134 00:06:17,029 --> 00:06:15,300 um so it's just that part of it's really 135 00:06:19,249 --> 00:06:17,039 getting to me and then the way that he 136 00:06:20,870 --> 00:06:19,259 was talking and it was like he was 137 00:06:23,270 --> 00:06:20,880 relishing and bringing it out it was 138 00:06:26,210 --> 00:06:23,280 almost like a play act um just watching 139 00:06:28,070 --> 00:06:26,220 the man talk about it um I I just find 140 00:06:30,290 --> 00:06:28,080 it funny I'm not doubting his 141 00:06:32,510 --> 00:06:30,300 credentials anything like that it's just 142 00:06:34,730 --> 00:06:32,520 that when I hear anything like this come 143 00:06:36,830 --> 00:06:34,740 from the government nothing ever happens 144 00:06:38,629 --> 00:06:36,840 past that 145 00:06:40,730 --> 00:06:38,639 um and so it's just the same thing 146 00:06:42,770 --> 00:06:40,740 circle around and around and around it 147 00:06:44,390 --> 00:06:42,780 seems to me like more disinformation 148 00:06:46,730 --> 00:06:44,400 unfortunately 149 00:06:49,070 --> 00:06:46,740 but that's just my point of view okay 150 00:06:51,890 --> 00:06:49,080 well we'll continue uh that's an 151 00:06:55,249 --> 00:06:51,900 interesting take and and I think all of 152 00:06:58,129 --> 00:06:55,259 this especially with these uh types of 153 00:07:00,230 --> 00:06:58,139 claims this is where discernment really 154 00:07:03,590 --> 00:07:00,240 comes into play you need to keep really 155 00:07:07,450 --> 00:07:03,600 squinty eyes and you know what I mean it 156 00:07:10,909 --> 00:07:07,460 just kind of but um uh this story 157 00:07:14,629 --> 00:07:10,919 uh basically this is kind of an 158 00:07:17,930 --> 00:07:14,639 Australian story it's Ross culthart and 159 00:07:20,570 --> 00:07:17,940 his original uh interview uh with uh 160 00:07:23,570 --> 00:07:20,580 grush and I think that 161 00:07:24,650 --> 00:07:23,580 um Ross who who I know and I'm sure you 162 00:07:27,529 --> 00:07:24,660 know 163 00:07:31,510 --> 00:07:27,539 um yeah Ross doesn't play around okay 164 00:07:35,150 --> 00:07:31,520 he's he's he's pretty friggin Direct 165 00:07:37,969 --> 00:07:35,160 and and in the interview he says are you 166 00:07:39,909 --> 00:07:37,979 lying right I mean Ross just goes 167 00:07:46,850 --> 00:07:39,919 straight at him man 168 00:07:49,370 --> 00:07:46,860 and and I it's uh Ross I think Ross I 169 00:07:52,430 --> 00:07:49,380 can't put words in his mouth but I think 170 00:07:56,270 --> 00:07:52,440 Ross is convinced on his credibility and 171 00:07:58,850 --> 00:07:56,280 and Ross isn't an easy guy uh you know 172 00:08:00,550 --> 00:07:58,860 to uh you know what I mean to change 173 00:08:03,529 --> 00:08:00,560 Ross's mind 174 00:08:07,790 --> 00:08:03,539 he's he's a very difficult guy what what 175 00:08:10,430 --> 00:08:07,800 do you make of Ross's take on this 176 00:08:13,070 --> 00:08:10,440 uh I haven't actually heard Ross's take 177 00:08:15,050 --> 00:08:13,080 um I bet if he believes the man Ross is 178 00:08:16,730 --> 00:08:15,060 very good with a judge of character and 179 00:08:18,409 --> 00:08:16,740 you know he's been doing this stuff for 180 00:08:20,210 --> 00:08:18,419 60 minutes and all this out here for 181 00:08:22,610 --> 00:08:20,220 years and he's highly respected out here 182 00:08:24,650 --> 00:08:22,620 so as an investigative journalist he 183 00:08:26,510 --> 00:08:24,660 knows he I mean he knows when people are 184 00:08:28,610 --> 00:08:26,520 lying to him I'm sure he's seen it that 185 00:08:31,129 --> 00:08:28,620 many times and he's been a part of it so 186 00:08:33,529 --> 00:08:31,139 you know Ross's discernment is great but 187 00:08:35,570 --> 00:08:33,539 unfortunately you know the best of us 188 00:08:37,070 --> 00:08:35,580 can be fooled by people and especially 189 00:08:38,149 --> 00:08:37,080 when it comes from anyone from the 190 00:08:40,010 --> 00:08:38,159 government 191 00:08:41,930 --> 00:08:40,020 um talking about this they can say 192 00:08:43,190 --> 00:08:41,940 anything and then you know the smartest 193 00:08:47,449 --> 00:08:43,200 person on Earth can be fooled by 194 00:08:50,030 --> 00:08:47,459 somebody who is out dead set out to um 195 00:08:52,550 --> 00:08:50,040 you know four people and you know so I 196 00:08:54,410 --> 00:08:52,560 mean anybody can be fooled so as far as 197 00:08:56,810 --> 00:08:54,420 I've heard so that many stories myself 198 00:08:58,970 --> 00:08:56,820 that were that believable that we're 199 00:09:00,410 --> 00:08:58,980 told so believably that I actually for a 200 00:09:02,930 --> 00:09:00,420 second believed and then they turned out 201 00:09:05,150 --> 00:09:02,940 to be absolutely false where there's so 202 00:09:06,710 --> 00:09:05,160 many people out there um in this field 203 00:09:08,329 --> 00:09:06,720 I've noticed in the past decade since 204 00:09:11,810 --> 00:09:08,339 I've been public myself for being 205 00:09:13,370 --> 00:09:11,820 contacted by Admirals and Generals and 206 00:09:15,530 --> 00:09:13,380 all sorts of people claiming to be all 207 00:09:17,210 --> 00:09:15,540 you know militaries and all this kind of 208 00:09:19,970 --> 00:09:17,220 stuff and most of them turn out to be 209 00:09:22,190 --> 00:09:19,980 just be the nut cases or just you know 210 00:09:23,570 --> 00:09:22,200 someone who wants to be part of part of 211 00:09:26,690 --> 00:09:23,580 the whole thing or whatever the case is 212 00:09:27,769 --> 00:09:26,700 but yeah Ross you know I trust Ross Ross 213 00:09:29,990 --> 00:09:27,779 is a good man 214 00:09:32,570 --> 00:09:30,000 um and you know but as far as I'm 215 00:09:35,509 --> 00:09:32,580 concerned you know that my theory as is 216 00:09:37,490 --> 00:09:35,519 that this uh is it's just too suspect 217 00:09:40,070 --> 00:09:37,500 and I mean I believe that last year 218 00:09:42,230 --> 00:09:40,080 Jacques valet was speaking about Crash 219 00:09:43,790 --> 00:09:42,240 medals that we have the same sort of 220 00:09:46,490 --> 00:09:43,800 thing so this has been going on for a 221 00:09:48,110 --> 00:09:46,500 little while now um and so I mean if 222 00:09:50,210 --> 00:09:48,120 it's out there it's out there but 223 00:09:52,310 --> 00:09:50,220 instead of just talking about it why 224 00:09:54,650 --> 00:09:52,320 don't we get the evidence show the 225 00:09:57,050 --> 00:09:54,660 evidence show the isotopic ratios to the 226 00:09:59,449 --> 00:09:57,060 public have it tested by independent 227 00:10:01,910 --> 00:09:59,459 scientists as well in independent 228 00:10:04,130 --> 00:10:01,920 Laboratories the whole thing just to 229 00:10:06,650 --> 00:10:04,140 prove it to lay it to rest talking about 230 00:10:08,449 --> 00:10:06,660 it constantly and then nothing coming 231 00:10:10,490 --> 00:10:08,459 from it time and time time and time 232 00:10:13,130 --> 00:10:10,500 again is just leading to the fact that 233 00:10:16,610 --> 00:10:13,140 okay this might be just not what it 234 00:10:18,949 --> 00:10:16,620 seems unfortunately so I I I'd love it 235 00:10:21,410 --> 00:10:18,959 to be true and I love it to be real but 236 00:10:23,389 --> 00:10:21,420 as far as I'm concerned the way I see it 237 00:10:25,430 --> 00:10:23,399 is that the 238 00:10:27,170 --> 00:10:25,440 the actual phenomenon is not being 239 00:10:29,449 --> 00:10:27,180 addressed it's not being addressed by 240 00:10:30,910 --> 00:10:29,459 the Pentagon by those looking into an 241 00:10:33,889 --> 00:10:30,920 atip study 242 00:10:35,509 --> 00:10:33,899 they seem to be focused on sources 243 00:10:36,710 --> 00:10:35,519 Metals 244 00:10:39,290 --> 00:10:36,720 um you know as if that's going to 245 00:10:41,329 --> 00:10:39,300 absolutely prove everything to the 246 00:10:43,670 --> 00:10:41,339 public that aliens exist or whatever the 247 00:10:45,530 --> 00:10:43,680 case is you know it's not 248 00:10:47,030 --> 00:10:45,540 um there's yeah different isotopic 249 00:10:49,250 --> 00:10:47,040 ratios and different things out there 250 00:10:51,590 --> 00:10:49,260 and whatnot but I just find it funny 251 00:10:53,990 --> 00:10:51,600 that um you know this can just keep 252 00:10:56,389 --> 00:10:54,000 going for so long without any evidence 253 00:10:58,610 --> 00:10:56,399 whatsoever and without anything coming 254 00:11:01,730 --> 00:10:58,620 forward to back up these stories so 255 00:11:04,190 --> 00:11:01,740 until I see some evidence myself you 256 00:11:08,829 --> 00:11:04,200 know it's still just a story out of one 257 00:11:13,250 --> 00:11:08,839 man's mouth unfortunately well okay and 258 00:11:20,269 --> 00:11:16,310 is where he sits on Solid Ground 259 00:11:23,389 --> 00:11:20,279 he sits on Solid Ground because he is a 260 00:11:28,370 --> 00:11:23,399 government employee uh that has had 261 00:11:32,090 --> 00:11:28,380 access to uh top secret information 262 00:11:33,829 --> 00:11:32,100 um so you have that aspect of it and he 263 00:11:38,150 --> 00:11:33,839 is protecting himself Under The 264 00:11:41,930 --> 00:11:38,160 Whistleblower rack and stating that he 265 00:11:46,670 --> 00:11:41,940 has seen the evidence that the United 266 00:11:50,810 --> 00:11:46,680 States is in possession of intact flying 267 00:11:53,269 --> 00:11:50,820 saucers now that goes beyond you know 268 00:11:57,710 --> 00:11:53,279 little bits and pieces of meta materials 269 00:12:00,290 --> 00:11:57,720 he's saying intact flying saucers and 270 00:12:02,210 --> 00:12:00,300 that the government has been lying to us 271 00:12:05,210 --> 00:12:02,220 about it 272 00:12:08,210 --> 00:12:05,220 um and that nobody in Congress and not 273 00:12:09,970 --> 00:12:08,220 well he's let Congress know now and the 274 00:12:13,730 --> 00:12:09,980 Senate yeah 275 00:12:16,610 --> 00:12:13,740 but that nobody knows about it and this 276 00:12:19,449 --> 00:12:16,620 has been kept from the public that is is 277 00:12:24,590 --> 00:12:19,459 where he stands on Solid Ground 278 00:12:26,569 --> 00:12:24,600 would wouldn't the possession of a 279 00:12:28,190 --> 00:12:26,579 flying so I'm saying Flying Saucer 280 00:12:31,150 --> 00:12:28,200 because of you know just I don't have 281 00:12:35,269 --> 00:12:31,160 another word for it right now but 282 00:12:38,509 --> 00:12:35,279 just that fact alone it wouldn't that be 283 00:12:41,949 --> 00:12:38,519 like the biggest news in the history of 284 00:12:44,750 --> 00:12:41,959 mankind and it isn't it a big deal 285 00:12:47,030 --> 00:12:44,760 absolutely it would be huge it would be 286 00:12:50,389 --> 00:12:47,040 massive I mean look at Roswell look at 287 00:12:52,370 --> 00:12:50,399 the impact that had and has had in a 288 00:12:55,430 --> 00:12:52,380 decade since I mean that has just 289 00:12:57,350 --> 00:12:55,440 swelled into a massive you know thing 290 00:12:59,329 --> 00:12:57,360 with the public and everyone knows 291 00:13:02,210 --> 00:12:59,339 Roswell everyone knows Area 51 and all 292 00:13:03,350 --> 00:13:02,220 this kind of stuff so um you know I I do 293 00:13:05,210 --> 00:13:03,360 believe that 294 00:13:07,490 --> 00:13:05,220 uh 295 00:13:09,590 --> 00:13:07,500 the phenomenon itself 296 00:13:11,389 --> 00:13:09,600 is is tricky 297 00:13:13,850 --> 00:13:11,399 um and and I know that it plays with 298 00:13:17,449 --> 00:13:13,860 people's minds I know that it's not what 299 00:13:19,790 --> 00:13:17,459 it seems um and so where where they're 300 00:13:22,490 --> 00:13:19,800 getting this information from um these 301 00:13:24,650 --> 00:13:22,500 crash sources these partially 302 00:13:26,449 --> 00:13:24,660 um intact craft as well fully intact 303 00:13:28,250 --> 00:13:26,459 partially intact 304 00:13:30,110 --> 00:13:28,260 um at the end of the day you know it's 305 00:13:31,970 --> 00:13:30,120 great that would just absolutely blow 306 00:13:34,970 --> 00:13:31,980 everyone's mind but what I've noticed is 307 00:13:37,850 --> 00:13:34,980 that over the past like and last year as 308 00:13:39,769 --> 00:13:37,860 well and even back in 2017 when the 309 00:13:41,569 --> 00:13:39,779 Pentagon came out and started speaking 310 00:13:44,629 --> 00:13:41,579 about the stuff and the Air Force and 311 00:13:46,670 --> 00:13:44,639 whatnot uh the Navy sorry 312 00:13:50,210 --> 00:13:46,680 um you know even back then the the 313 00:13:52,910 --> 00:13:50,220 phenomenon itself is is still continuing 314 00:13:55,910 --> 00:13:52,920 on it's it's not changing 315 00:13:59,329 --> 00:13:55,920 um it's still the same and it's but it's 316 00:14:01,610 --> 00:13:59,339 it's it covers itself it's dark it's 317 00:14:04,009 --> 00:14:01,620 it's it's not what it seems and for 318 00:14:06,650 --> 00:14:04,019 myself I've seen you know many many 319 00:14:09,290 --> 00:14:06,660 dozens of craft objects up in the sky 320 00:14:11,629 --> 00:14:09,300 only once have I ever seen what could 321 00:14:13,610 --> 00:14:11,639 resemble a flying saucer or captured 322 00:14:16,009 --> 00:14:13,620 I've got hundreds of captions of these 323 00:14:17,870 --> 00:14:16,019 things and I've just it's the rarest 324 00:14:20,870 --> 00:14:17,880 thing is to see one of these flying 325 00:14:22,910 --> 00:14:20,880 sources but that is so ingrained in in 326 00:14:25,430 --> 00:14:22,920 humans and people and the whole alien 327 00:14:28,129 --> 00:14:25,440 Mythos that you know that would be just 328 00:14:30,110 --> 00:14:28,139 a worldwide thing it would just break 329 00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:30,120 everyone's mind or you would think so 330 00:14:33,889 --> 00:14:31,680 years ago would have had a greater 331 00:14:36,050 --> 00:14:33,899 effect but I think nowadays due to the 332 00:14:38,269 --> 00:14:36,060 internet due to people talking about it 333 00:14:40,129 --> 00:14:38,279 due to it being a more open acceptable 334 00:14:42,650 --> 00:14:40,139 subject where the stigma has been 335 00:14:44,569 --> 00:14:42,660 released a little bit due to you know 336 00:14:46,310 --> 00:14:44,579 the Pentagon and people coming out about 337 00:14:48,230 --> 00:14:46,320 it and all that kind of stuff you know 338 00:14:50,329 --> 00:14:48,240 it I thought it would have had a much 339 00:14:52,370 --> 00:14:50,339 greater impact than what it has I mean 340 00:14:54,590 --> 00:14:52,380 it's got a lot of people talking but I 341 00:14:56,750 --> 00:14:54,600 guess not everyone is interested in UFOs 342 00:14:59,210 --> 00:14:56,760 and it's not going to affect people like 343 00:15:01,730 --> 00:14:59,220 it did just say back in the 40s and 50s 344 00:15:03,590 --> 00:15:01,740 and like with Orson Wells with War of 345 00:15:05,689 --> 00:15:03,600 the Worlds how um you know that one part 346 00:15:07,129 --> 00:15:05,699 in New York how they played the story 347 00:15:09,410 --> 00:15:07,139 about the aliens coming and all that and 348 00:15:11,269 --> 00:15:09,420 everyone freaked out and panicked you 349 00:15:13,129 --> 00:15:11,279 know that different times back then I 350 00:15:15,170 --> 00:15:13,139 think we're a little bit more open to it 351 00:15:16,730 --> 00:15:15,180 now we're probably less religious in 352 00:15:18,290 --> 00:15:16,740 certain ways 353 00:15:20,269 --> 00:15:18,300 um so we're more open to certain 354 00:15:22,069 --> 00:15:20,279 phenomena or whatever the cases or stuff 355 00:15:25,250 --> 00:15:22,079 that's out there science is you know 356 00:15:28,069 --> 00:15:25,260 expanding all the time so you know it 357 00:15:29,449 --> 00:15:28,079 would be a massive thing but people need 358 00:15:32,269 --> 00:15:29,459 to see the evidence of what I've always 359 00:15:34,370 --> 00:15:32,279 said just quickly is is that for for 360 00:15:36,170 --> 00:15:34,380 everyone to believe this to be a true 361 00:15:38,150 --> 00:15:36,180 phenomenon around the world all at the 362 00:15:40,610 --> 00:15:38,160 same time we'd have to have some sort of 363 00:15:43,189 --> 00:15:40,620 Independence Day scenario where you have 364 00:15:45,350 --> 00:15:43,199 these major crafter above every city in 365 00:15:47,930 --> 00:15:45,360 the world all at the same time that way 366 00:15:50,030 --> 00:15:47,940 it's undeniable it's not just a story 367 00:15:52,129 --> 00:15:50,040 about someone who saw something or 368 00:15:54,050 --> 00:15:52,139 someone who heard a story about some 369 00:15:56,329 --> 00:15:54,060 from someone else it's actual evidence 370 00:15:57,889 --> 00:15:56,339 and that would be undeniable that would 371 00:15:59,750 --> 00:15:57,899 change everything that would really 372 00:16:02,329 --> 00:15:59,760 maybe freak A lot of people out still 373 00:16:05,569 --> 00:16:02,339 but the way it is the phenomenon doesn't 374 00:16:07,069 --> 00:16:05,579 do that it just remains semi-hidden but 375 00:16:10,550 --> 00:16:07,079 sometimes it doesn't care whether it's 376 00:16:12,889 --> 00:16:10,560 seen on not it's just strange I I can't 377 00:16:14,930 --> 00:16:12,899 understand it sometimes it's shy and 378 00:16:17,750 --> 00:16:14,940 sometimes it's not sometimes it wants to 379 00:16:19,250 --> 00:16:17,760 let you film it and sometimes it doesn't 380 00:16:22,009 --> 00:16:19,260 um a play with plays around with your 381 00:16:24,470 --> 00:16:22,019 cameras your batteries everything 382 00:16:26,810 --> 00:16:24,480 um memory cards it wipes the the 383 00:16:29,569 --> 00:16:26,820 phenomenon is bizarre um so it's really 384 00:16:30,769 --> 00:16:29,579 hard to like we're saying before 385 00:16:33,110 --> 00:16:30,779 um you know 386 00:16:34,370 --> 00:16:33,120 it changes it throws you a curveball all 387 00:16:36,350 --> 00:16:34,380 the time so when you think you know the 388 00:16:38,150 --> 00:16:36,360 answer to it like it's aliens for Mars 389 00:16:40,610 --> 00:16:38,160 or it's this or it's that or it's you 390 00:16:43,370 --> 00:16:40,620 know bacterians or whatever no there's 391 00:16:45,350 --> 00:16:43,380 something else deeper and Stranger Than 392 00:16:48,710 --> 00:16:45,360 what people could possibly imagine and 393 00:16:50,269 --> 00:16:48,720 you know in haunted skies and fractured 394 00:16:52,610 --> 00:16:50,279 realities part two coming up I'd be 395 00:16:54,829 --> 00:16:52,620 going into the the high strangeness side 396 00:16:56,930 --> 00:16:54,839 of the UFO phenomenon 397 00:16:58,970 --> 00:16:56,940 um and what's associated with it as well 398 00:17:01,850 --> 00:16:58,980 and it's it's a little bit deeper than 399 00:17:04,130 --> 00:17:01,860 just sauces or little balls of light so 400 00:17:06,169 --> 00:17:04,140 yeah it's crazy phenomenon and you know 401 00:17:08,030 --> 00:17:06,179 I want people to accept it and believe 402 00:17:10,970 --> 00:17:08,040 it but I think it'll just happen with 403 00:17:12,409 --> 00:17:10,980 time eventually and you have to see to 404 00:17:14,449 --> 00:17:12,419 believe and I always say that to people 405 00:17:17,510 --> 00:17:14,459 you need to see it to believe it as the 406 00:17:19,549 --> 00:17:17,520 old saying goes you know for sure for 407 00:17:20,270 --> 00:17:19,559 sure now if 408 00:17:24,230 --> 00:17:20,280 um 409 00:17:26,090 --> 00:17:24,240 if the White House comes out and says 410 00:17:29,390 --> 00:17:26,100 okay all right 411 00:17:31,909 --> 00:17:29,400 time to come clean we've got flying 412 00:17:35,990 --> 00:17:31,919 saucers that that are not of this Earth 413 00:17:39,350 --> 00:17:36,000 and we've had them for a while is that 414 00:17:42,770 --> 00:17:39,360 is that the in is that an Independence 415 00:17:46,130 --> 00:17:42,780 Day moment like you're referring to if 416 00:17:48,770 --> 00:17:46,140 if the president comes out and says E.T 417 00:17:52,130 --> 00:17:48,780 Israel and yes we have flying saucers 418 00:17:53,510 --> 00:17:52,140 are we at that point it would be but it 419 00:17:56,450 --> 00:17:53,520 wouldn't it wouldn't quite have the same 420 00:17:58,789 --> 00:17:56,460 impact as everyone seeing these things 421 00:18:00,710 --> 00:17:58,799 with their own eyes having someone tell 422 00:18:02,810 --> 00:18:00,720 you something especially someone from 423 00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:02,820 the government there's not much trust in 424 00:18:05,930 --> 00:18:04,260 governments obviously because 425 00:18:07,909 --> 00:18:05,940 governments have lied to people many 426 00:18:11,150 --> 00:18:07,919 many times and kept secrets over the 427 00:18:13,490 --> 00:18:11,160 decades so um it's I mean it's hard to 428 00:18:15,770 --> 00:18:13,500 say but as far as I'm concerned the 429 00:18:17,630 --> 00:18:15,780 biggest impact would be multiple 430 00:18:19,730 --> 00:18:17,640 sightings around the world I mean it's 431 00:18:22,490 --> 00:18:19,740 great for I don't know if anyone would 432 00:18:24,710 --> 00:18:22,500 even believe what Biden says anyway what 433 00:18:27,049 --> 00:18:24,720 comes out of his mouth at the moment so 434 00:18:28,789 --> 00:18:27,059 but at the same time especially if you 435 00:18:30,890 --> 00:18:28,799 started talking about UFOs and aliens 436 00:18:33,049 --> 00:18:30,900 and stuff like that but you know I I 437 00:18:34,250 --> 00:18:33,059 just believe that um 438 00:18:37,010 --> 00:18:34,260 it 439 00:18:39,350 --> 00:18:37,020 the the one thing that that would change 440 00:18:42,110 --> 00:18:39,360 everything would be multiple sightings 441 00:18:45,169 --> 00:18:42,120 around the world gigantic sightings AKA 442 00:18:46,430 --> 00:18:45,179 Independence Day and you know it's fine 443 00:18:47,930 --> 00:18:46,440 I'm sure a lot of people would believe 444 00:18:50,090 --> 00:18:47,940 the president and a lot of people would 445 00:18:51,610 --> 00:18:50,100 believe the government and unfortunately 446 00:18:54,529 --> 00:18:51,620 the you know most of the population 447 00:18:56,210 --> 00:18:54,539 would blindly do follow like sheep 448 00:18:59,090 --> 00:18:56,220 whatever the government says a good deal 449 00:19:02,330 --> 00:18:59,100 of the population but um as far as I'm 450 00:19:04,730 --> 00:19:02,340 concerned we need something bigger than 451 00:19:06,770 --> 00:19:04,740 just someone saying okay here's a story 452 00:19:08,870 --> 00:19:06,780 we've got crashed this or we've got 453 00:19:12,110 --> 00:19:08,880 crash that people need to see the 454 00:19:15,230 --> 00:19:12,120 evidence not just here about it okay 455 00:19:19,190 --> 00:19:15,240 let's take it to the next level 456 00:19:21,470 --> 00:19:19,200 they produce not only photographs but 457 00:19:23,770 --> 00:19:21,480 they allow the press in to see these 458 00:19:29,210 --> 00:19:27,350 okay well if there's photographs of 459 00:19:31,310 --> 00:19:29,220 Croft I mean you'd have to that's 460 00:19:35,090 --> 00:19:31,320 suspect as is you'd have to show the 461 00:19:37,730 --> 00:19:35,100 craft show the I just said they let the 462 00:19:41,029 --> 00:19:37,740 press in they have a press conference 463 00:19:42,890 --> 00:19:41,039 and they show us the craft 464 00:19:44,630 --> 00:19:42,900 and they show the craft well that would 465 00:19:46,610 --> 00:19:44,640 be a different story altogether yeah if 466 00:19:48,770 --> 00:19:46,620 they showed it and showed the after 467 00:19:51,049 --> 00:19:48,780 independent Laboratories tested it as 468 00:19:53,090 --> 00:19:51,059 well and showed that the same type of 469 00:19:54,650 --> 00:19:53,100 thing it was very strange isotopic 470 00:19:56,510 --> 00:19:54,660 ratios and everything like this and or 471 00:19:58,850 --> 00:19:56,520 something that we do not have on this 472 00:20:00,830 --> 00:19:58,860 Earth yeah definitely that would change 473 00:20:02,330 --> 00:20:00,840 a lot of people's that would that would 474 00:20:04,250 --> 00:20:02,340 actually change my 475 00:20:06,230 --> 00:20:04,260 um thoughts on the crash source of 476 00:20:07,130 --> 00:20:06,240 phenomenon too if they showed it to us 477 00:20:08,870 --> 00:20:07,140 but 478 00:20:12,409 --> 00:20:08,880 and unfortunately it's still just 479 00:20:16,190 --> 00:20:12,419 stories yeah yep yep yep we got to see 480 00:20:19,010 --> 00:20:16,200 how this plays out and exactly right 481 00:20:19,690 --> 00:20:19,020 before uh show time 482 00:20:22,370 --> 00:20:19,700 um 483 00:20:25,450 --> 00:20:22,380 there's there's some other news breaking 484 00:20:30,650 --> 00:20:25,460 around grush and one of the statements 485 00:20:33,830 --> 00:20:30,660 uh he has made and apparently 486 00:20:35,870 --> 00:20:33,840 um now I I again this is so fluid it's 487 00:20:41,450 --> 00:20:35,880 happening so fast so if I get this a 488 00:20:44,510 --> 00:20:41,460 little bit wrong uh uh sue me okay but 489 00:20:49,970 --> 00:20:44,520 I think he did an interview within an 490 00:20:52,610 --> 00:20:49,980 Italian publication I guess today and in 491 00:20:55,510 --> 00:20:52,620 this he States 492 00:20:59,390 --> 00:20:55,520 that in 1933 493 00:21:02,450 --> 00:20:59,400 1933 before World War II 1933 494 00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:02,460 the United States went to Italy and 495 00:21:07,390 --> 00:21:06,000 recovered a craft and brought it back to 496 00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:07,400 the United States 497 00:21:12,650 --> 00:21:10,320 now you know again we're getting into 498 00:21:16,010 --> 00:21:12,660 specifics and he's got dates and he's 499 00:21:19,610 --> 00:21:16,020 got that's uh what what do we do with 500 00:21:24,409 --> 00:21:19,620 that and and then the the curveball on 501 00:21:26,690 --> 00:21:24,419 this is he says it was bell-shaped 502 00:21:29,149 --> 00:21:26,700 on a bell-shaped okay well that's 503 00:21:31,970 --> 00:21:29,159 reminiscent of Kecksburg the kexberg 504 00:21:34,610 --> 00:21:31,980 incident with the Bell the the uh the 505 00:21:38,690 --> 00:21:34,620 bell shaped it has also um with the 506 00:21:41,630 --> 00:21:38,700 Glock yeah die Glock the Glock yeah yeah 507 00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:41,640 so that that that actual shape has 508 00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:43,679 there's a few really good photographs 509 00:21:48,230 --> 00:21:45,840 out there of there was one I think back 510 00:21:49,970 --> 00:21:48,240 in the 70s it was taken um either in 511 00:21:51,950 --> 00:21:49,980 America or here in Australia where there 512 00:21:54,049 --> 00:21:51,960 was one over a house tilted on its side 513 00:21:55,909 --> 00:21:54,059 moving across 514 00:21:57,830 --> 00:21:55,919 um absolutely incredible um so yeah 515 00:21:59,990 --> 00:21:57,840 there are those type of ones out there 516 00:22:01,909 --> 00:22:00,000 and I mean if they showed us those 517 00:22:03,350 --> 00:22:01,919 things I mean there would be no denying 518 00:22:05,210 --> 00:22:03,360 it would there it would be just okay 519 00:22:06,890 --> 00:22:05,220 it's there you can touch it you can test 520 00:22:08,149 --> 00:22:06,900 it that's what people want that's what 521 00:22:10,490 --> 00:22:08,159 scientists want they want to be able to 522 00:22:13,549 --> 00:22:10,500 test these things and unfortunately with 523 00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:13,559 the the bulk of the phenomenon the orb 524 00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:15,600 phenomenon or the Foo Fighter phenomenon 525 00:22:18,409 --> 00:22:17,280 whatever the case is the same deal the 526 00:22:21,529 --> 00:22:18,419 same thing 527 00:22:23,930 --> 00:22:21,539 um the bulk of the phenomenon is is not 528 00:22:26,510 --> 00:22:23,940 being tested it's it can't be tested 529 00:22:28,490 --> 00:22:26,520 unless you you capture it somehow and I 530 00:22:30,830 --> 00:22:28,500 mean we've tried it's almost like a 531 00:22:33,470 --> 00:22:30,840 plasma-like entity these things that 532 00:22:36,169 --> 00:22:33,480 seem alive they follow cars around the 533 00:22:39,409 --> 00:22:36,179 area around here we've got a major 534 00:22:42,890 --> 00:22:39,419 highway heading to dubbo is an hour long 535 00:22:44,810 --> 00:22:42,900 just a Farms a massive long road and 536 00:22:46,730 --> 00:22:44,820 over the past decade I've probably had 537 00:22:49,730 --> 00:22:46,740 about four or five truckers and families 538 00:22:52,430 --> 00:22:49,740 contact me about 15 kilometers outside 539 00:22:55,130 --> 00:22:52,440 of dubbo heading towards my town here 540 00:22:57,950 --> 00:22:55,140 and we've only got 750 people here so 541 00:22:59,510 --> 00:22:57,960 it's a Tiny Town it's known as this 542 00:23:01,850 --> 00:22:59,520 whole area is known as the astronomy 543 00:23:04,430 --> 00:23:01,860 capital of Australia because there's no 544 00:23:06,289 --> 00:23:04,440 lights there's no light pollution you 545 00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:06,299 can see the sky it's just incredible we 546 00:23:10,090 --> 00:23:08,400 have all the telescopes around here and 547 00:23:13,370 --> 00:23:10,100 everything for that very reason 548 00:23:16,130 --> 00:23:13,380 these phenomenon um these ball 549 00:23:18,529 --> 00:23:16,140 phenomenon uh that we've seen 550 00:23:21,169 --> 00:23:18,539 all around country areas here they 551 00:23:23,870 --> 00:23:21,179 follow cars and they do some incredible 552 00:23:26,750 --> 00:23:23,880 stuff but you they are hyper aware they 553 00:23:28,610 --> 00:23:26,760 disappear when other cars are coming in 554 00:23:30,350 --> 00:23:28,620 the opposite direction and before you 555 00:23:32,210 --> 00:23:30,360 can even see them themselves so these 556 00:23:35,390 --> 00:23:32,220 things are aware so they're hyper aware 557 00:23:37,370 --> 00:23:35,400 as far as I know we can't capture these 558 00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:37,380 things I mean even even a scientific 559 00:23:43,250 --> 00:23:39,679 laboratory environment we can only 560 00:23:45,950 --> 00:23:43,260 replicate Plasma in a very tight sealed 561 00:23:49,010 --> 00:23:45,960 container for a very small amount of 562 00:23:51,289 --> 00:23:49,020 time um before it dissipates and so but 563 00:23:53,090 --> 00:23:51,299 these things they they they're just out 564 00:23:55,850 --> 00:23:53,100 there they can do the most incredible 565 00:23:57,770 --> 00:23:55,860 things dive into the ground without any 566 00:23:59,090 --> 00:23:57,780 disturbance of the ground whatsoever and 567 00:24:01,010 --> 00:23:59,100 we've seen them do some incredible 568 00:24:03,110 --> 00:24:01,020 things dive into the water and that so 569 00:24:04,730 --> 00:24:03,120 these things will be hard to capture so 570 00:24:07,850 --> 00:24:04,740 I can understand why they would be 571 00:24:09,890 --> 00:24:07,860 focusing on the Flying Saucer part of it 572 00:24:12,350 --> 00:24:09,900 but those the flying sources aren't 573 00:24:14,810 --> 00:24:12,360 really registered or even seen nowadays 574 00:24:16,909 --> 00:24:14,820 they're just virtually unheard of which 575 00:24:19,310 --> 00:24:16,919 is really strange so whatever they have 576 00:24:22,610 --> 00:24:19,320 must be back from many many years ago 577 00:24:24,830 --> 00:24:22,620 when you know the 70s 80s even early 90s 578 00:24:26,450 --> 00:24:24,840 when people were still seeing a lot of 579 00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:26,460 the the flying sources and stuff like 580 00:24:32,570 --> 00:24:29,760 that so these crash car from Italy and 581 00:24:34,789 --> 00:24:32,580 America and and Russia and China 582 00:24:37,070 --> 00:24:34,799 wherever they are um yeah it must be 583 00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:37,080 from a while back and I mean you know 584 00:24:42,289 --> 00:24:39,120 what personally I'd love to see them I 585 00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:42,299 would love to just like bubblers are you 586 00:24:46,430 --> 00:24:44,400 know hop up in one and and check it out 587 00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:46,440 and it would just be incredible but yeah 588 00:24:50,750 --> 00:24:49,200 we'd need something like that to show at 589 00:24:52,549 --> 00:24:50,760 least most people that we're not alone 590 00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:52,559 there's something else strange going on 591 00:24:57,529 --> 00:24:55,440 but it that doesn't that side of it 592 00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:57,539 still doesn't touch on the actual deeper 593 00:25:02,510 --> 00:25:00,720 darker side of the UFO phenomenon where 594 00:25:05,409 --> 00:25:02,520 most people don't know about 595 00:25:08,090 --> 00:25:05,419 um and most people don't experience so 596 00:25:09,529 --> 00:25:08,100 if we can capture this plasma or 597 00:25:12,110 --> 00:25:09,539 whatever the case is that would be 598 00:25:14,450 --> 00:25:12,120 another huge step to proving to people 599 00:25:17,330 --> 00:25:14,460 okay most of the phenomenon 80 plus 600 00:25:19,130 --> 00:25:17,340 percent of the phenomenon is is this or 601 00:25:20,870 --> 00:25:19,140 it's part of the same phenomenon it's 602 00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:20,880 part of these sources as part of the 603 00:25:23,570 --> 00:25:22,320 cigars they're all part of the same 604 00:25:25,490 --> 00:25:23,580 thing 605 00:25:27,529 --> 00:25:25,500 um you know we really don't know at the 606 00:25:28,730 --> 00:25:27,539 end of the day and like you said The 607 00:25:30,649 --> 00:25:28,740 more you look into it the more 608 00:25:32,810 --> 00:25:30,659 curveballs you get thrown and you just 609 00:25:35,390 --> 00:25:32,820 when you think you have the answer it's 610 00:25:37,970 --> 00:25:35,400 just still just over the hill and you 611 00:25:40,430 --> 00:25:37,980 know you're not quite there yet but so I 612 00:25:43,070 --> 00:25:40,440 I've kind of come to a resolution myself 613 00:25:45,049 --> 00:25:43,080 in my own life that you know I've been 614 00:25:47,450 --> 00:25:45,059 doing this for 34 years since having a 615 00:25:49,549 --> 00:25:47,460 sighting when I was nine and you know it 616 00:25:51,470 --> 00:25:49,559 really stuck with me and it's just kind 617 00:25:54,409 --> 00:25:51,480 of took over my life and I'd be happy 618 00:25:56,810 --> 00:25:54,419 that you know before I leave this earth 619 00:25:59,090 --> 00:25:56,820 that people out there understand that 620 00:26:00,890 --> 00:25:59,100 the phenomenon is real the stigma is 621 00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:00,900 dissipated and where people can feel 622 00:26:05,149 --> 00:26:03,360 free to talk about it uh feel free to 623 00:26:07,970 --> 00:26:05,159 open up about it because in my own life 624 00:26:10,490 --> 00:26:07,980 for the last 30 for 35 years I've you 625 00:26:12,409 --> 00:26:10,500 know lost friends over this family who 626 00:26:14,090 --> 00:26:12,419 thought I was crazy half my family have 627 00:26:15,529 --> 00:26:14,100 seen it with me the phenomena and the 628 00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:15,539 other half you know I think we're nuts 629 00:26:19,490 --> 00:26:17,520 or whatever the case cases but you know 630 00:26:20,930 --> 00:26:19,500 at the end of the day you know your own 631 00:26:22,010 --> 00:26:20,940 truth you know what you've seen and 632 00:26:24,110 --> 00:26:22,020 experienced 633 00:26:26,570 --> 00:26:24,120 um and you know I've been lucky in the 634 00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:26,580 last decade filming documentaries these 635 00:26:30,890 --> 00:26:28,559 things show up while we're making these 636 00:26:33,710 --> 00:26:30,900 documentaries it's like they're hyper 637 00:26:35,930 --> 00:26:33,720 aware that we're talking about them or 638 00:26:37,789 --> 00:26:35,940 we're doing documentaries about them um 639 00:26:39,710 --> 00:26:37,799 that we they've followed me to 640 00:26:41,630 --> 00:26:39,720 conferences and presentations here in 641 00:26:43,850 --> 00:26:41,640 Australia all over the country and we've 642 00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:43,860 caught them on film following above the 643 00:26:47,810 --> 00:26:45,360 car and doing all sorts of strange 644 00:26:50,269 --> 00:26:47,820 things and straight after conferences we 645 00:26:52,130 --> 00:26:50,279 had one in uh it's called the Paradigm 646 00:26:55,370 --> 00:26:52,140 Shift Summit up on the Gold Coast about 647 00:26:57,769 --> 00:26:55,380 four or five years ago and I just done a 648 00:27:00,529 --> 00:26:57,779 presentation and went outside to be 649 00:27:03,470 --> 00:27:00,539 filmed for a Canadian documentary called 650 00:27:04,850 --> 00:27:03,480 making contact with Rob Freeman and they 651 00:27:06,890 --> 00:27:04,860 were filming me out on the balcony and 652 00:27:09,529 --> 00:27:06,900 Rob had his big camera set up similar to 653 00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:09,539 what I have behind me a big rig 654 00:27:13,850 --> 00:27:11,640 um you know with multiple cameras uh but 655 00:27:16,610 --> 00:27:13,860 he he's his ones you're worth 10 times 656 00:27:18,529 --> 00:27:16,620 the amount mine is you know 72 thousand 657 00:27:20,149 --> 00:27:18,539 dollar thermal camera with you can 658 00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:20,159 record the SD card all that kind of 659 00:27:23,870 --> 00:27:22,080 stuff and so at the end of this little 660 00:27:25,549 --> 00:27:23,880 interview he said um do you want to have 661 00:27:27,470 --> 00:27:25,559 a look through the camera set up and at 662 00:27:30,289 --> 00:27:27,480 that stage I'd never seen through you 663 00:27:32,269 --> 00:27:30,299 know a thermal device that powerful so I 664 00:27:34,250 --> 00:27:32,279 was like wow yeah definitely so as soon 665 00:27:36,409 --> 00:27:34,260 as I look through it on the other side 666 00:27:38,510 --> 00:27:36,419 because it's it's giving off a heat 667 00:27:40,130 --> 00:27:38,520 signature was a perfectly shaped and 668 00:27:42,590 --> 00:27:40,140 this is the only one that I've seen in 669 00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:42,600 my life was a perfectly shaped Flying 670 00:27:47,870 --> 00:27:45,600 Saucer with a dome on the top fully flat 671 00:27:50,990 --> 00:27:47,880 bottom we're out perfectly rounded sides 672 00:27:52,970 --> 00:27:51,000 really long with a tiny Dome not a big 673 00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:52,980 one a tiny little Dome just in the 674 00:27:56,570 --> 00:27:54,960 middle everything was perfect and I 675 00:27:58,430 --> 00:27:56,580 thought at the time it was a joke that 676 00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:58,440 the guys had a sticker on the other side 677 00:28:01,970 --> 00:28:00,240 of it and they so I reach around I'm 678 00:28:04,370 --> 00:28:01,980 trying to scratch it off you know and 679 00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:04,380 and not then the things started moving 680 00:28:09,169 --> 00:28:07,200 and so I said oh my God this is Rob can 681 00:28:10,909 --> 00:28:09,179 you start recording he started recording 682 00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:10,919 this thing and he's looking through it 683 00:28:14,810 --> 00:28:12,960 now and so I've run inside to grab my 684 00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:14,820 camera we had 15 people or something out 685 00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:15,840 in the balcony this thing was going 686 00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:19,679 completely invisible at seven stories up 687 00:28:26,029 --> 00:28:23,279 at the Hilton in in the Gold Coast off a 688 00:28:27,769 --> 00:28:26,039 balcony you know and it was just above 689 00:28:29,690 --> 00:28:27,779 and it so it starts moving in between 690 00:28:31,970 --> 00:28:29,700 these buildings goes out to the ocean 691 00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:31,980 and then disappears and so we've 692 00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:33,840 recorded it thinking we've got the most 693 00:28:39,169 --> 00:28:36,240 incredible footage of a UFO going 694 00:28:41,210 --> 00:28:39,179 between buildings A giant one big it was 695 00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:41,220 really big and out to the ocean 696 00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:43,200 despairing so I've gone up to my hotel 697 00:28:47,330 --> 00:28:46,080 room afterwards and Rob and and Mark and 698 00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:47,340 the rest of the guys have come up and 699 00:28:51,529 --> 00:28:49,200 opened the door and they looked really 700 00:28:52,850 --> 00:28:51,539 dejected now what's wrong you know and 701 00:28:54,890 --> 00:28:52,860 they said oh you're not going to believe 702 00:28:57,049 --> 00:28:54,900 this what's happened they said ah they 703 00:28:58,730 --> 00:28:57,059 put the game in the memory card or put 704 00:29:03,130 --> 00:28:58,740 it in the computer and sure enough 705 00:29:06,310 --> 00:29:03,140 whatever this thing did it affected the 706 00:29:09,649 --> 00:29:06,320 frequency or whatever it did it actually 707 00:29:11,450 --> 00:29:09,659 only showed the audio and there was 708 00:29:13,490 --> 00:29:11,460 electrical interference over the whole 709 00:29:15,529 --> 00:29:13,500 video side of it so you could just 710 00:29:19,250 --> 00:29:15,539 something was affecting it electorally 711 00:29:20,570 --> 00:29:19,260 uh electricity wise and it was showing 712 00:29:22,190 --> 00:29:20,580 up and all you could see was a black 713 00:29:23,930 --> 00:29:22,200 screen with white things going across it 714 00:29:26,029 --> 00:29:23,940 that had never happened to him before 715 00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:26,039 and it never happened since on such an 716 00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:28,559 expensive piece of equipment and so we 717 00:29:32,090 --> 00:29:30,779 were like oh you know rubbing our heads 718 00:29:34,010 --> 00:29:32,100 together this is that would have been 719 00:29:37,130 --> 00:29:34,020 the best most incredible bit of footage 720 00:29:39,230 --> 00:29:37,140 but it just did that but he included 721 00:29:40,610 --> 00:29:39,240 that in his documentary um and he can 722 00:29:42,289 --> 00:29:40,620 hear us all in the background talking 723 00:29:44,510 --> 00:29:42,299 about this huge thing that's moving 724 00:29:46,970 --> 00:29:44,520 across and so this is part of the high 725 00:29:49,010 --> 00:29:46,980 strangers of it it's these things are 726 00:29:51,409 --> 00:29:49,020 out there they're all around us 727 00:29:53,210 --> 00:29:51,419 um they're invisible A lot of the times 728 00:29:55,730 --> 00:29:53,220 um there's different phenomenon as well 729 00:29:57,529 --> 00:29:55,740 or different characteristics of the same 730 00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:57,539 phenomenon that I've been recording for 731 00:30:02,029 --> 00:30:00,480 the past decade as well and it's I call 732 00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:02,039 them flashes 733 00:30:07,010 --> 00:30:05,279 um a flasher type you UFO or UAP and 734 00:30:10,190 --> 00:30:07,020 these things are invisible in our skies 735 00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:10,200 and day or night and they'll give off a 736 00:30:13,610 --> 00:30:11,760 massive bright flash then they'll move 737 00:30:16,490 --> 00:30:13,620 over here give off a huge bright flash 738 00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:16,500 the flashes change in frequency they 739 00:30:21,590 --> 00:30:20,159 change in length as well and these 740 00:30:23,389 --> 00:30:21,600 things do really strange little things 741 00:30:25,970 --> 00:30:23,399 I've recorded them in the daytime 742 00:30:28,610 --> 00:30:25,980 actually tracking another UFO across the 743 00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:28,620 sky and and sort of almost like checking 744 00:30:33,769 --> 00:30:30,960 it out and so I call them the sky police 745 00:30:38,450 --> 00:30:33,779 because they seem to be around and they 746 00:30:40,370 --> 00:30:38,460 seem to be a a precursor to other UFO 747 00:30:42,409 --> 00:30:40,380 sightings um so when you see multiple 748 00:30:45,409 --> 00:30:42,419 flashes of light from one point in the 749 00:30:48,649 --> 00:30:45,419 sky or different parts of the sky 750 00:30:50,990 --> 00:30:48,659 um then normally you'll see UFOs later 751 00:30:55,210 --> 00:30:51,000 that night or within a few hours or 752 00:30:58,850 --> 00:30:55,220 whatever the case is so there's a lot of 753 00:31:00,710 --> 00:30:58,860 non-uh Flying Saucer related stuff out 754 00:31:02,810 --> 00:31:00,720 there that I find a lot more fascinating 755 00:31:05,269 --> 00:31:02,820 than something that might have crashed 756 00:31:07,490 --> 00:31:05,279 or whatever the case is sure that'll 757 00:31:10,490 --> 00:31:07,500 convince a lot of people but it's not 758 00:31:13,310 --> 00:31:10,500 actually touching on the main phenomenon 759 00:31:14,990 --> 00:31:13,320 um and that is the balls of light the 760 00:31:17,269 --> 00:31:15,000 you know and I find that a lot more 761 00:31:19,909 --> 00:31:17,279 fascinating than I've seen these things 762 00:31:22,190 --> 00:31:19,919 split into two three four golf in 763 00:31:23,510 --> 00:31:22,200 different directions at high speeds join 764 00:31:25,490 --> 00:31:23,520 back in again 765 00:31:27,250 --> 00:31:25,500 um I've seen a huge one and which I've 766 00:31:29,630 --> 00:31:27,260 caught on film moving across the sky 767 00:31:31,909 --> 00:31:29,640 spitting out little balls and then 768 00:31:33,529 --> 00:31:31,919 little other little balls appearing near 769 00:31:34,909 --> 00:31:33,539 it just out of the blue just out of 770 00:31:37,130 --> 00:31:34,919 nowhere appearing near it then going 771 00:31:39,529 --> 00:31:37,140 straight back into it again while it's 772 00:31:40,850 --> 00:31:39,539 moving across the sky then stops meets 773 00:31:42,769 --> 00:31:40,860 up with another one that's got little 774 00:31:45,710 --> 00:31:42,779 balls flying into it and out of it and 775 00:31:48,049 --> 00:31:45,720 it's just these things are just insane 776 00:31:51,169 --> 00:31:48,059 um and it's just how can you explain 777 00:31:53,690 --> 00:31:51,179 this you know I I the Flying Saucer 778 00:31:55,370 --> 00:31:53,700 thing no you can't and and that's part 779 00:31:57,409 --> 00:31:55,380 of the the mystery and that's why I 780 00:31:59,450 --> 00:31:57,419 believe it'll always remain mystery 781 00:32:01,370 --> 00:31:59,460 especially that side of it because I 782 00:32:03,409 --> 00:32:01,380 think if we were meant to find out about 783 00:32:05,210 --> 00:32:03,419 it we would have already or they would 784 00:32:07,250 --> 00:32:05,220 have told us or whatever the case is and 785 00:32:10,970 --> 00:32:07,260 wouldn't it be just you know one or two 786 00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:10,980 aliens speaking with a contact D saying 787 00:32:14,870 --> 00:32:12,720 oh we come from actuarus and we're here 788 00:32:16,250 --> 00:32:14,880 to spread love and you know we're going 789 00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:16,260 to here to save the world and give you 790 00:32:20,029 --> 00:32:17,840 you know 791 00:32:22,430 --> 00:32:20,039 technology that's just beyond everything 792 00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:22,440 you have and you know that never happens 793 00:32:26,029 --> 00:32:24,240 I mean there's so many contactees that 794 00:32:27,710 --> 00:32:26,039 have spoken about that and said that the 795 00:32:29,149 --> 00:32:27,720 aliens said they come from here or come 796 00:32:31,310 --> 00:32:29,159 from there 797 00:32:33,230 --> 00:32:31,320 um and then nothing ever comes from it 798 00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:33,240 you know nuclear weapons are bad yeah we 799 00:32:37,310 --> 00:32:34,799 understand that 800 00:32:40,190 --> 00:32:37,320 um you know but at the same time it just 801 00:32:42,169 --> 00:32:40,200 there's a trickster element to it so I 802 00:32:43,850 --> 00:32:42,179 wouldn't trust anything that these 803 00:32:45,710 --> 00:32:43,860 actually they don't talk to me probably 804 00:32:47,630 --> 00:32:45,720 that they don't like me so much they do 805 00:32:49,610 --> 00:32:47,640 like to show up for my cameras sometimes 806 00:32:52,190 --> 00:32:49,620 but they don't talk to me like they they 807 00:32:54,289 --> 00:32:52,200 talk to other people so it's either I'm 808 00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:54,299 either too crazy or not crazy enough I'm 809 00:32:58,430 --> 00:32:56,640 not sure but you know as far as I'm 810 00:33:02,149 --> 00:32:58,440 concerned I wouldn't trust anything they 811 00:33:04,789 --> 00:33:02,159 say I I had a um incident uh three and a 812 00:33:06,830 --> 00:33:04,799 half years ago now down in Sydney before 813 00:33:08,630 --> 00:33:06,840 I moved up to the country here and it's 814 00:33:11,149 --> 00:33:08,640 the reason why I moved up here I had an 815 00:33:14,570 --> 00:33:11,159 encounter with the UFO and it was a 816 00:33:16,190 --> 00:33:14,580 beautiful purple blue with a white 817 00:33:17,930 --> 00:33:16,200 purple in the middle that was radiating 818 00:33:20,690 --> 00:33:17,940 out to the sides it was just incredible 819 00:33:22,789 --> 00:33:20,700 hovering above my tree at you know 11 30 820 00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:22,799 at night and I was working on a 821 00:33:26,649 --> 00:33:24,720 documentary out in my office in the 822 00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:26,659 garage at the time and 823 00:33:30,889 --> 00:33:28,799 I've just stood up to have a bit of a 824 00:33:32,509 --> 00:33:30,899 break and took my dog outside and we're 825 00:33:34,250 --> 00:33:32,519 at the door and just having a bit of a 826 00:33:36,590 --> 00:33:34,260 stretch and then boom this thing is just 827 00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:36,600 there and it's doing this little slight 828 00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:38,399 left and right up and down really 829 00:33:43,730 --> 00:33:40,080 slightly I'm just watching it for a few 830 00:33:46,730 --> 00:33:43,740 few seconds then also bright light very 831 00:33:48,830 --> 00:33:46,740 bright light warmth came at me 832 00:33:51,169 --> 00:33:48,840 um the thing just gone it disappeared 833 00:33:54,289 --> 00:33:51,179 and I woke up the following morning I 834 00:33:56,149 --> 00:33:54,299 sort of crashed out you know and my 835 00:33:58,009 --> 00:33:56,159 woke up the following morning went in 836 00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:58,019 seen my girlfriend brought her in a 837 00:34:01,730 --> 00:34:00,480 coffee and she said oh what's wrong what 838 00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:01,740 do you mean she goes go and look in the 839 00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:04,080 mirror so I won't look in the mirror and 840 00:34:10,129 --> 00:34:07,679 my face uh was as white as a ghost I 841 00:34:13,070 --> 00:34:10,139 looked like death literally 842 00:34:15,169 --> 00:34:13,080 um and I just was feeling unwell and 843 00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:15,179 over the course of your three four days 844 00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:17,760 you know I actually Ross coultard came 845 00:34:22,070 --> 00:34:19,679 over to the house three days after it 846 00:34:23,510 --> 00:34:22,080 happened and spent some time with me and 847 00:34:25,790 --> 00:34:23,520 I didn't tell him about what happened 848 00:34:28,430 --> 00:34:25,800 because I was still you know processing 849 00:34:30,349 --> 00:34:28,440 the whole thing and wasn't feeling 100 850 00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:30,359 um but after he left he messaged me and 851 00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:32,399 he goes oh mate I'm sorry I have to tell 852 00:34:36,770 --> 00:34:34,560 you but you look like death you look 853 00:34:38,570 --> 00:34:36,780 like sick as a dog are you okay you know 854 00:34:40,609 --> 00:34:38,580 I'm saying oh look I'll explain later 855 00:34:42,530 --> 00:34:40,619 what happened to me but you know he 856 00:34:45,649 --> 00:34:42,540 knows now obviously he's known for a few 857 00:34:48,169 --> 00:34:45,659 years what happened but it was just I um 858 00:34:49,070 --> 00:34:48,179 on the fourth or fifth day I started 859 00:34:51,230 --> 00:34:49,080 getting 860 00:34:53,089 --> 00:34:51,240 because I held my arm up like this to 861 00:34:54,349 --> 00:34:53,099 cover my eyes from this bright flash I 862 00:34:57,050 --> 00:34:54,359 remember and 863 00:34:58,430 --> 00:34:57,060 um I noticed on my left arm 864 00:35:00,410 --> 00:34:58,440 um in the shower actually started 865 00:35:02,210 --> 00:35:00,420 getting redder and redder over about a 866 00:35:04,250 --> 00:35:02,220 week a week and a half and then it 867 00:35:06,349 --> 00:35:04,260 started blistering and when I say 868 00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:06,359 blistering I started forming these green 869 00:35:11,630 --> 00:35:09,119 blisters all up and down my arm from 870 00:35:15,290 --> 00:35:11,640 where I hold my arm on my face my face 871 00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:15,300 started getting so cable my face started 872 00:35:19,550 --> 00:35:17,520 getting these red marks on it and I 873 00:35:22,250 --> 00:35:19,560 still do to this day these red marks 874 00:35:25,370 --> 00:35:22,260 come across my face and whenever they do 875 00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:25,380 I get really sick I found out that I had 876 00:35:30,910 --> 00:35:28,079 a hyper rare bone condition after this 877 00:35:33,290 --> 00:35:30,920 which caused by exposure to radiation 878 00:35:35,050 --> 00:35:33,300 hypophosphatemic osteomalacia which is 879 00:35:37,790 --> 00:35:35,060 similar to 880 00:35:40,069 --> 00:35:37,800 osteoporosis I got told by one of the 881 00:35:43,609 --> 00:35:40,079 Specialists that it was that rare in a 882 00:35:45,290 --> 00:35:43,619 man my age at the time I was 39. he said 883 00:35:47,630 --> 00:35:45,300 it's that rare he goes you know he could 884 00:35:50,270 --> 00:35:47,640 wait all day or all week outside his 885 00:35:52,190 --> 00:35:50,280 office in in Sydney one of the busiest 886 00:35:54,829 --> 00:35:52,200 streets in Sydney ask everybody walking 887 00:35:56,750 --> 00:35:54,839 by my age as a male if they have this 888 00:35:59,210 --> 00:35:56,760 and you'll say you won't get anyone who 889 00:36:01,550 --> 00:35:59,220 has it and so it mystified and stumped 890 00:36:04,190 --> 00:36:01,560 everyone how I could be burnt through my 891 00:36:05,710 --> 00:36:04,200 arm and the burnt got that bad 892 00:36:08,270 --> 00:36:05,720 um when the blisters popped it actually 893 00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:08,280 there was an indent in my arm that's how 894 00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:11,280 bad these blisters came in it 895 00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:13,200 um set the pretty nasty Scar and all 896 00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:16,079 that kind of stuff but ever since then I 897 00:36:21,650 --> 00:36:18,480 started getting really bad migraines 898 00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:21,660 um I I started having seizures as well I 899 00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:23,760 had a seizure on the sixth day after it 900 00:36:30,109 --> 00:36:27,119 happened and then on the same day I 901 00:36:32,810 --> 00:36:30,119 broke my back in three places my dog 902 00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:32,820 started seizuring and he was sitting 903 00:36:37,250 --> 00:36:35,280 next to me when we saw this UFO he 904 00:36:39,770 --> 00:36:37,260 started seizuring on the same day I did 905 00:36:42,109 --> 00:36:39,780 like six or seven days later and 906 00:36:43,970 --> 00:36:42,119 eventually after about like after I got 907 00:36:45,470 --> 00:36:43,980 out of hospital about three weeks later 908 00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:45,480 I had to put him down because his 909 00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:48,000 seizures got that bad he was my best 910 00:36:52,790 --> 00:36:50,400 friend who really broke me having to do 911 00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:52,800 that and kind of left me with the 912 00:36:59,150 --> 00:36:55,200 feeling that you know whatever this 913 00:37:00,829 --> 00:36:59,160 thing was somehow made me sick it's 914 00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:00,839 affected my bones I got told that I had 915 00:37:06,650 --> 00:37:04,079 bones of a 95 year old woman 916 00:37:09,290 --> 00:37:06,660 um and you know it's scary like at my 917 00:37:12,050 --> 00:37:09,300 age to hear that and they found also 918 00:37:14,270 --> 00:37:12,060 that I had um lung issues 919 00:37:15,530 --> 00:37:14,280 um like I'm burnt on the inside of my 920 00:37:17,150 --> 00:37:15,540 lungs 921 00:37:18,770 --> 00:37:17,160 um and so I've got conditions that are 922 00:37:22,370 --> 00:37:18,780 killing me at the moment 923 00:37:24,770 --> 00:37:22,380 um due to this incident or people think 924 00:37:27,050 --> 00:37:24,780 it is and Harvard a gentleman from 925 00:37:29,450 --> 00:37:27,060 Harvard who's a postdoctoral scholar I 926 00:37:32,270 --> 00:37:29,460 believe that I was exposed to an his 927 00:37:34,730 --> 00:37:32,280 words an out of world radiation after he 928 00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:34,740 saw all my medical reports and the you 929 00:37:38,030 --> 00:37:35,760 know the 930 00:37:40,190 --> 00:37:38,040 the burns and they're pretty nasty 931 00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:40,200 photographs and stuff like that so that 932 00:37:46,250 --> 00:37:43,200 that left me with a um a bit of a 933 00:37:48,050 --> 00:37:46,260 quandary because I I started thinking 934 00:37:50,569 --> 00:37:48,060 that the UFO phenomenon wasn't as 935 00:37:52,430 --> 00:37:50,579 pleasant and nice as what people make it 936 00:37:53,810 --> 00:37:52,440 out to be like these things like they're 937 00:37:55,790 --> 00:37:53,820 here to help us and all this kind of 938 00:37:58,010 --> 00:37:55,800 stuff I started looking into a lot more 939 00:38:00,050 --> 00:37:58,020 cases of uh where these things have 940 00:38:01,970 --> 00:38:00,060 injured people and that kind of stuff so 941 00:38:03,829 --> 00:38:01,980 for three years I've been speaking about 942 00:38:06,050 --> 00:38:03,839 my injuries in that day and what 943 00:38:08,690 --> 00:38:06,060 happened to me and then it was last year 944 00:38:11,810 --> 00:38:08,700 I think in April when the Pentagon came 945 00:38:13,910 --> 00:38:11,820 out and said that they they spoke about 946 00:38:15,890 --> 00:38:13,920 those hundred people that they studied 947 00:38:17,870 --> 00:38:15,900 and it was this I think Subacute 948 00:38:19,609 --> 00:38:17,880 anomalous effects on human tissue and 949 00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:19,619 stuff like that so there was another 100 950 00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:22,560 people uh Pilots Aerospace industry guys 951 00:38:26,690 --> 00:38:24,240 that kind of stuff like that who've been 952 00:38:28,910 --> 00:38:26,700 exposed to these balls of light who'd 953 00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:28,920 actually had radiation damage on their 954 00:38:32,450 --> 00:38:30,720 skins bodies that kind of thing and 955 00:38:34,130 --> 00:38:32,460 apparently The Story Goes a third of 956 00:38:35,390 --> 00:38:34,140 them are now dead who are involved in 957 00:38:36,829 --> 00:38:35,400 that study 958 00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:36,839 um and that I think that was with kit 959 00:38:40,609 --> 00:38:38,880 green uh Professor get green 960 00:38:41,210 --> 00:38:40,619 um Professor Nolan 961 00:38:43,970 --> 00:38:41,220 um 962 00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:43,980 maybe a killer wikashara from Harvard 963 00:38:48,829 --> 00:38:46,800 and a couple others that are com kelleha 964 00:38:51,770 --> 00:38:48,839 I believe it was involved in it as well 965 00:38:53,450 --> 00:38:51,780 so they're helping me at the moment and 966 00:38:55,550 --> 00:38:53,460 hopefully you know we'll find out 967 00:38:57,770 --> 00:38:55,560 something that can help me with this but 968 00:39:01,910 --> 00:38:57,780 it's not looking too good 969 00:39:04,430 --> 00:39:01,920 have you spoken to John Burroughs 970 00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:04,440 no I haven't actually no 971 00:39:06,589 --> 00:39:06,000 okay 972 00:39:09,770 --> 00:39:06,599 um 973 00:39:11,569 --> 00:39:09,780 in John Burroughs uh was in the Air 974 00:39:12,670 --> 00:39:11,579 Force and involved in the randlesham 975 00:39:17,930 --> 00:39:12,680 case 976 00:39:21,710 --> 00:39:17,940 and so he got yeah he had to go to court 977 00:39:25,270 --> 00:39:21,720 and fight the VA because his medical 978 00:39:29,870 --> 00:39:25,280 records were classified he couldn't even 979 00:39:35,390 --> 00:39:29,880 get access to his own medical records 980 00:39:38,569 --> 00:39:35,400 and wow he took a senator out of Arizona 981 00:39:41,569 --> 00:39:38,579 um to get involved with this uh to make 982 00:39:43,849 --> 00:39:41,579 everything happen he eventually uh won 983 00:39:46,130 --> 00:39:43,859 that case but that I think John 984 00:39:48,589 --> 00:39:46,140 Burroughs and kit green was involved 985 00:39:49,849 --> 00:39:48,599 with that case and and others too as 986 00:39:56,270 --> 00:39:49,859 well 987 00:40:01,910 --> 00:39:56,280 um that uh it uh it took John's case 988 00:40:05,050 --> 00:40:01,920 um to to get that the wording into uh 989 00:40:08,390 --> 00:40:05,060 the budget and and and everything for 990 00:40:10,609 --> 00:40:08,400 2022. the the words that you're speaking 991 00:40:14,690 --> 00:40:10,619 about I think that that was all Central 992 00:40:16,990 --> 00:40:14,700 around John Burroughs case and John is 993 00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:17,000 still alive he texted me the other day 994 00:40:22,130 --> 00:40:20,160 good okay he's a great guy but he's 995 00:40:24,890 --> 00:40:22,140 somebody that you might you might want 996 00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:24,900 to reach out to and speak to about this 997 00:40:28,130 --> 00:40:26,640 um about your symptoms and and 998 00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:28,140 everything else you may have some 999 00:40:31,310 --> 00:40:29,520 insight 1000 00:40:33,950 --> 00:40:31,320 um I wanted to ask you 1001 00:40:34,750 --> 00:40:33,960 um that's an incredible story 1002 00:40:38,690 --> 00:40:34,760 um 1003 00:40:41,450 --> 00:40:38,700 how big was it 1004 00:40:44,030 --> 00:40:41,460 uh above your trees when you stepped 1005 00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:44,040 outside uh well my tray is about the 1006 00:40:50,750 --> 00:40:48,000 tree I'd say would be about 14 feet high 1007 00:40:54,650 --> 00:40:50,760 um 14 15 feet in height and it was about 1008 00:40:57,290 --> 00:40:54,660 maybe a foot or two above the tree 1009 00:40:59,390 --> 00:40:57,300 um and just to the left so it was on the 1010 00:41:01,670 --> 00:40:59,400 corner of the tree just to the left 1011 00:41:03,349 --> 00:41:01,680 um and one one really strange thing that 1012 00:41:06,530 --> 00:41:03,359 that happened and I didn't find out 1013 00:41:08,690 --> 00:41:06,540 until weeks later at the angle where 1014 00:41:11,089 --> 00:41:08,700 this UFO was and the door to my garage 1015 00:41:12,890 --> 00:41:11,099 where I was standing right behind me I 1016 00:41:14,510 --> 00:41:12,900 had a cabinet just on the inside of the 1017 00:41:17,630 --> 00:41:14,520 door and on top of the cabinet I had a 1018 00:41:19,970 --> 00:41:17,640 bunch of DVDs like Blu-ray movies that 1019 00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:19,980 kind of stuff uh documentaries and 1020 00:41:24,290 --> 00:41:22,800 anyway I one day because I was I had a 1021 00:41:25,550 --> 00:41:24,300 broker back obviously I was recovering 1022 00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:25,560 so I thought I'll watch a couple of 1023 00:41:31,250 --> 00:41:27,839 movies and I've opened them up and the 1024 00:41:33,290 --> 00:41:31,260 first five DVDs on the top and I think 1025 00:41:36,130 --> 00:41:33,300 somewhere underneath were less damage 1026 00:41:39,770 --> 00:41:36,140 but the first five had been roasted 1027 00:41:42,770 --> 00:41:39,780 inside the case of the DVD D the actual 1028 00:41:44,990 --> 00:41:42,780 DVD itself had been burnt and all of it 1029 00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:45,000 was just bubbling and everything while 1030 00:41:49,550 --> 00:41:47,280 the outside case with paper and 1031 00:41:51,710 --> 00:41:49,560 everything was not burnt not touched 1032 00:41:53,329 --> 00:41:51,720 nothing so that's another part of the 1033 00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:53,339 high strangers it almost seems like a 1034 00:41:59,329 --> 00:41:56,400 type of microwave radiation where it's 1035 00:42:00,650 --> 00:41:59,339 cooked from the inside because my jacket 1036 00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:00,660 that I was wearing that night because it 1037 00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:04,079 was quite quite a cold night and um it 1038 00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:06,240 actually burnt me through the jacket and 1039 00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:08,400 left no trace on the outside of the 1040 00:42:14,390 --> 00:42:11,040 jacket whatsoever so it had similar 1041 00:42:17,150 --> 00:42:14,400 thing happening right behind me where it 1042 00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:17,160 destroyed the DVDs inside the case 1043 00:42:22,010 --> 00:42:19,380 without destroying the outside case so 1044 00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:22,020 that that's another high strangeness 1045 00:42:25,490 --> 00:42:23,760 sort of thing of this but I'll tell you 1046 00:42:28,010 --> 00:42:25,500 something that happened just two weeks 1047 00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:28,020 ago um that UFO I've captured like 1048 00:42:31,970 --> 00:42:30,480 literally tens of dozens of white orbs 1049 00:42:34,130 --> 00:42:31,980 and orange ones and all this kind of 1050 00:42:36,530 --> 00:42:34,140 stuff over the years but I've never 1051 00:42:38,990 --> 00:42:36,540 caught or even seen a purple one like 1052 00:42:40,849 --> 00:42:39,000 this one this one was different um and 1053 00:42:43,310 --> 00:42:40,859 it was about maybe a bit bigger than a 1054 00:42:44,750 --> 00:42:43,320 basketball just around maybe a 1055 00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:44,760 little bit bigger than a basketball I'd 1056 00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:45,839 say 1057 00:42:49,490 --> 00:42:47,520 um and it was 1058 00:42:51,890 --> 00:42:49,500 just incredible or you can see the 1059 00:42:54,650 --> 00:42:51,900 interior mechanism out of it but two 1060 00:42:56,750 --> 00:42:54,660 weeks ago I had a group uh from Sydney 1061 00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:56,760 who came up and they were a ce5 group 1062 00:43:00,109 --> 00:42:58,560 and I don't really do c5s or anything 1063 00:43:02,150 --> 00:43:00,119 like that but we just sat around talking 1064 00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:02,160 and I said to them look we won't do C5 1065 00:43:06,050 --> 00:43:03,599 we'll just sit here and chat and I 1066 00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:06,060 guarantee we'll see some stuff and sure 1067 00:43:10,010 --> 00:43:06,960 enough 1068 00:43:13,069 --> 00:43:10,020 um while I'm filming and describing this 1069 00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:13,079 UFO that burnt me or hurt me to these 1070 00:43:16,730 --> 00:43:14,400 guys 1071 00:43:18,589 --> 00:43:16,740 um I'm filming in the background I've 1072 00:43:20,930 --> 00:43:18,599 got a long exposure what's called a live 1073 00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:20,940 composite photo so it takes multiple 1074 00:43:24,589 --> 00:43:22,800 photos and stacks them on top and if 1075 00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:24,599 there's a change of light it'll keep 1076 00:43:29,089 --> 00:43:27,119 that photograph so it's good for Star 1077 00:43:31,730 --> 00:43:29,099 trails and that kind of stuff so I've 1078 00:43:34,490 --> 00:43:31,740 filmed that right directly behind us and 1079 00:43:36,770 --> 00:43:34,500 sure enough that same UFO that I've only 1080 00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:36,780 ever seen that once in my life has shown 1081 00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:39,440 up in this Photograph two streets away 1082 00:43:45,470 --> 00:43:43,440 right in front of a tree so while we're 1083 00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:45,480 talking about it I mean it's just that's 1084 00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:47,280 another part of this fire strange is 1085 00:43:52,430 --> 00:43:50,160 they seem to know and be aware of future 1086 00:43:56,089 --> 00:43:52,440 events or even sometimes what you're 1087 00:43:58,609 --> 00:43:56,099 thinking I I just I can't get my mind 1088 00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:58,619 around that like they the times I see 1089 00:44:02,750 --> 00:44:00,480 him I have more luck 1090 00:44:04,430 --> 00:44:02,760 um not going out on big Expeditions with 1091 00:44:06,349 --> 00:44:04,440 people and stuff like that I have more 1092 00:44:07,970 --> 00:44:06,359 luck going out to my garbage bin to put 1093 00:44:10,309 --> 00:44:07,980 the garbage out and then just looking up 1094 00:44:12,050 --> 00:44:10,319 and seeing something and I guess I'm 1095 00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:12,060 lucky I'm in an area where you know 1096 00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:13,440 these things have been seen for a long 1097 00:44:19,309 --> 00:44:16,800 time and we have a river here in town 1098 00:44:21,950 --> 00:44:19,319 um Trafalgar River and 1099 00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:21,960 this Aboriginal people all around these 1100 00:44:26,750 --> 00:44:24,960 areas here indigenous Australians but 1101 00:44:28,970 --> 00:44:26,760 they won't come into town here and 1102 00:44:32,329 --> 00:44:28,980 there's a reason for that uh going back 1103 00:44:34,609 --> 00:44:32,339 over 107 years or maybe even longer they 1104 00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:34,619 believe this town has cursed and in 1105 00:44:38,809 --> 00:44:36,960 particular the river is cursed now this 1106 00:44:41,150 --> 00:44:38,819 River I've captured 1107 00:44:43,010 --> 00:44:41,160 lights coming down from up above 1108 00:44:44,930 --> 00:44:43,020 changing directions stopping and then 1109 00:44:47,809 --> 00:44:44,940 diving into the river at higher speeds 1110 00:44:49,910 --> 00:44:47,819 without a splash or without anything so 1111 00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:49,920 I'm thinking is the reason why they 1112 00:44:53,390 --> 00:44:51,599 believed it was cursed 1113 00:44:55,190 --> 00:44:53,400 that were they seeing these same lights 1114 00:44:56,569 --> 00:44:55,200 in this area you know hundreds of years 1115 00:44:58,309 --> 00:44:56,579 ago and that's why they don't come into 1116 00:45:00,290 --> 00:44:58,319 town because they believe that river is 1117 00:45:02,390 --> 00:45:00,300 cursed there's something strange about 1118 00:45:04,130 --> 00:45:02,400 this area and I don't know what it is I 1119 00:45:06,349 --> 00:45:04,140 know there's unusual mineral 1120 00:45:08,510 --> 00:45:06,359 compositions in the ground so there's 1121 00:45:10,970 --> 00:45:08,520 massive veins of quartz crystal running 1122 00:45:13,609 --> 00:45:10,980 through the entire town and there's also 1123 00:45:16,069 --> 00:45:13,619 massive veins of Iron Stone running 1124 00:45:18,589 --> 00:45:16,079 through the entire town and we have very 1125 00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:18,599 unusual electrical effects in this town 1126 00:45:22,370 --> 00:45:20,400 and there's only one other place in the 1127 00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:22,380 whole of Australia which I know that the 1128 00:45:26,510 --> 00:45:24,480 same thing happens and it's near a place 1129 00:45:29,690 --> 00:45:26,520 in Western Australia called Esperance 1130 00:45:33,050 --> 00:45:29,700 and it's in that area they have iron ore 1131 00:45:35,329 --> 00:45:33,060 in the ground and also massive areas of 1132 00:45:38,030 --> 00:45:35,339 quartz crystal in this one area now 1133 00:45:40,670 --> 00:45:38,040 storms when they come up to these veins 1134 00:45:44,210 --> 00:45:40,680 in the ground storms will stop 1135 00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:44,220 and electricity and the storms will not 1136 00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:47,520 go further they just stop and just over 1137 00:45:51,950 --> 00:45:49,680 these quartz crystal veins and Iron 1138 00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:51,960 Stone veins so I think either 1139 00:45:55,970 --> 00:45:53,760 something's happening whether it's an 1140 00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:55,980 energy that it's giving off in 1141 00:45:59,390 --> 00:45:57,599 combination with the minerals it's 1142 00:46:02,930 --> 00:45:59,400 producing some sort of earth-lite effect 1143 00:46:06,530 --> 00:46:02,940 or they could be using it for a power or 1144 00:46:08,450 --> 00:46:06,540 who really knows but we've uncovered 1145 00:46:10,609 --> 00:46:08,460 some really strange things just in this 1146 00:46:12,349 --> 00:46:10,619 town alone so and I know that you know 1147 00:46:15,290 --> 00:46:12,359 you guys over in America you have the 1148 00:46:17,390 --> 00:46:15,300 the Brown Mountain Lights and you know 1149 00:46:19,130 --> 00:46:17,400 the Texas Martha lights and stuff like 1150 00:46:21,170 --> 00:46:19,140 that you know we call them the min-min 1151 00:46:23,150 --> 00:46:21,180 lights here in Australia and these are 1152 00:46:25,130 --> 00:46:23,160 the same things that follow cars and 1153 00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:25,140 stuff like that so I mean yeah the same 1154 00:46:27,950 --> 00:46:26,640 phenomenon all around the world just 1155 00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:27,960 with different names 1156 00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:30,480 well you know what we don't have we 1157 00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:34,319 don't have Marfa lights billboards 1158 00:46:41,349 --> 00:46:38,160 I've seen them in Billboards right I 1159 00:46:45,890 --> 00:46:44,390 lights come on in everybody I've seen 1160 00:46:47,569 --> 00:46:45,900 the Billboards it's pretty incredible 1161 00:46:51,470 --> 00:46:47,579 and that 1162 00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:51,480 um that is uh when you when you look at 1163 00:46:55,569 --> 00:46:53,280 something like the mim-min lights I want 1164 00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:55,579 to get back to Consciousness right but 1165 00:47:02,510 --> 00:46:59,520 the min-min lights today when the 1166 00:47:04,849 --> 00:47:02,520 Skeptics or the debunkers want to say ah 1167 00:47:07,970 --> 00:47:04,859 it's truck lights off in the distance is 1168 00:47:10,130 --> 00:47:07,980 it you know what they didn't have trucks 1169 00:47:13,190 --> 00:47:10,140 in the 1800s 1170 00:47:16,970 --> 00:47:13,200 they didn't have trucks in the 1700s 1171 00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:16,980 when absolutely these stories 1172 00:47:23,630 --> 00:47:20,880 um not only uh they didn't start back 1173 00:47:25,849 --> 00:47:23,640 then but they certainly were told back 1174 00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:25,859 then the min-min lights have been around 1175 00:47:31,490 --> 00:47:28,800 a lot longer than electricity 1176 00:47:33,290 --> 00:47:31,500 absolutely yeah so I mean those excuses 1177 00:47:35,930 --> 00:47:33,300 are ridiculous 1178 00:47:37,130 --> 00:47:35,940 um a lot of people the Skeptics here in 1179 00:47:40,190 --> 00:47:37,140 Australia have tried to say they just 1180 00:47:42,410 --> 00:47:40,200 car headlights refracting off you know a 1181 00:47:45,230 --> 00:47:42,420 ground or doing this or that I mean it 1182 00:47:47,809 --> 00:47:45,240 just out their excuses are crazier than 1183 00:47:50,569 --> 00:47:47,819 the actual phenomenon in a way you know 1184 00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:50,579 so you know I just I mean I'd say the 1185 00:47:53,990 --> 00:47:52,319 job you're not really Skeptics it's just 1186 00:47:55,730 --> 00:47:54,000 to rubbish everything and anything they 1187 00:47:58,130 --> 00:47:55,740 can but I think this phenomenon 1188 00:48:01,010 --> 00:47:58,140 especially now is becoming a lot harder 1189 00:48:03,290 --> 00:48:01,020 for Skeptics to even touch because they 1190 00:48:05,630 --> 00:48:03,300 they are challenged a few just recently 1191 00:48:08,750 --> 00:48:05,640 and they will not touch like of years 1192 00:48:10,430 --> 00:48:08,760 ago I was on a TV show here called if 1193 00:48:12,290 --> 00:48:10,440 current affair show called today tonight 1194 00:48:14,809 --> 00:48:12,300 and I had the Australian Skeptics 1195 00:48:17,150 --> 00:48:14,819 Association up against me and you know 1196 00:48:19,250 --> 00:48:17,160 they they all they could really say was 1197 00:48:21,770 --> 00:48:19,260 oh wow that moved fast or that could 1198 00:48:25,069 --> 00:48:21,780 have been a star or that could have been 1199 00:48:26,510 --> 00:48:25,079 this or that and it's just oh wow you 1200 00:48:28,490 --> 00:48:26,520 know they've got to say that but now 1201 00:48:30,650 --> 00:48:28,500 it's like especially since the Pentagon 1202 00:48:33,470 --> 00:48:30,660 have come out it's a lot harder for them 1203 00:48:35,450 --> 00:48:33,480 to it's a lot more risky for them to you 1204 00:48:37,370 --> 00:48:35,460 know fly their trade especially with the 1205 00:48:39,050 --> 00:48:37,380 UFO phenomenon they can touch ghosts and 1206 00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:39,060 all that kind of stuff and Bigfoot and 1207 00:48:44,270 --> 00:48:40,800 you know but 1208 00:48:46,010 --> 00:48:44,280 like even with this uh the the metal the 1209 00:48:47,809 --> 00:48:46,020 recovered metal stuff you know that that 1210 00:48:50,089 --> 00:48:47,819 would be enough to silence a lot of 1211 00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:50,099 Skeptics no doubt so I mean that's why I 1212 00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:51,599 want them to bring out this information 1213 00:48:56,569 --> 00:48:54,000 and show the world and I'll just shut 1214 00:48:58,670 --> 00:48:56,579 the Skeptics up all together and uh my 1215 00:49:00,829 --> 00:48:58,680 whole thing with this is you know I come 1216 00:49:02,270 --> 00:49:00,839 from a from a place of pain you know I'm 1217 00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:02,280 I've seen these things trying to tell 1218 00:49:07,069 --> 00:49:04,800 friends at school after when I was nine 1219 00:49:08,809 --> 00:49:07,079 and then when I was 12 seeing UFOs with 1220 00:49:11,690 --> 00:49:08,819 my step brothers with my half brother 1221 00:49:14,690 --> 00:49:11,700 sorry and you know so I just 1222 00:49:16,970 --> 00:49:14,700 it's been like a labor of love but I've 1223 00:49:18,829 --> 00:49:16,980 stuck with it because I know it's true 1224 00:49:20,270 --> 00:49:18,839 you know and when you got the truth on 1225 00:49:21,770 --> 00:49:20,280 your side as far as I'm concerned you 1226 00:49:23,630 --> 00:49:21,780 can't go wrong I mean you can come up 1227 00:49:26,089 --> 00:49:23,640 against a lot of [\h__\h] out there in 1228 00:49:27,650 --> 00:49:26,099 the world excuse the French but um you 1229 00:49:29,630 --> 00:49:27,660 know as long as you know the truth and 1230 00:49:32,210 --> 00:49:29,640 what you've seen you you can't go wrong 1231 00:49:34,130 --> 00:49:32,220 and so I just want the stigma lifted as 1232 00:49:36,109 --> 00:49:34,140 far as I'm concerned you know there's so 1233 00:49:38,030 --> 00:49:36,119 many people that this has destroyed 1234 00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:38,040 their lives in so many ways just 1235 00:49:42,170 --> 00:49:40,079 believing in this phenomenon you know 1236 00:49:43,849 --> 00:49:42,180 it's just incredible I know things are 1237 00:49:46,190 --> 00:49:43,859 changing now and people becoming more 1238 00:49:48,050 --> 00:49:46,200 open to it which is great 1239 00:49:49,670 --> 00:49:48,060 um I just hope that that continues that 1240 00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:49,680 Trend and you know and it doesn't 1241 00:49:53,450 --> 00:49:52,079 continue to get rubbished and I think 1242 00:49:54,770 --> 00:49:53,460 we're on the right track I think we're 1243 00:49:56,450 --> 00:49:54,780 doing really well I think there's more 1244 00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:56,460 rise on the UFO phenomenon that have 1245 00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:59,040 ever been probably and and more people 1246 00:50:02,930 --> 00:50:00,720 probably believing that it's it's 1247 00:50:05,390 --> 00:50:02,940 possibly real so I mean you couldn't ask 1248 00:50:08,510 --> 00:50:05,400 for more than that you know no you can't 1249 00:50:13,309 --> 00:50:08,520 and and and just let me say this 1250 00:50:17,150 --> 00:50:13,319 a cool thing to do is go to a UFO 1251 00:50:18,650 --> 00:50:17,160 conference in Australia just go or in 1252 00:50:20,270 --> 00:50:18,660 Great Britain or in the United States 1253 00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:20,280 and hang out with hundreds if not 1254 00:50:25,970 --> 00:50:23,280 thousands of people the most boring 1255 00:50:28,910 --> 00:50:25,980 thing to do one of the saddest things to 1256 00:50:33,190 --> 00:50:28,920 do is go to a Skeptics conference 1257 00:50:38,930 --> 00:50:37,250 you know having you know having a Coke 1258 00:50:44,109 --> 00:50:38,940 or a beer 1259 00:50:47,150 --> 00:50:44,119 um yeah and and telling skeptic story 1260 00:50:54,970 --> 00:50:47,160 just sucks that's a sad life so don't 1261 00:51:01,670 --> 00:50:58,849 I was um I was uh uh speaking last night 1262 00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:01,680 on the show about this very subject with 1263 00:51:08,270 --> 00:51:04,400 uh Pat Spain and Pat's amazing right 1264 00:51:11,809 --> 00:51:08,280 cryptozoologist biologist very smart guy 1265 00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:11,819 right but here's the thing 1266 00:51:18,410 --> 00:51:14,760 uh the world of Bigfoot the world of 1267 00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:18,420 UFOs and you know we we're a big 1268 00:51:23,450 --> 00:51:21,119 Community we're great we're fun people 1269 00:51:25,309 --> 00:51:23,460 uh for the most part we love fighting 1270 00:51:29,210 --> 00:51:25,319 with each other but but that's another 1271 00:51:32,230 --> 00:51:29,220 story but we're a wonderful crowd 1272 00:51:36,950 --> 00:51:32,240 um this the world of Skeptics 1273 00:51:39,770 --> 00:51:36,960 it's it's lonely it sucks but they have 1274 00:51:41,870 --> 00:51:39,780 the loudest mouths so that's what you 1275 00:51:45,349 --> 00:51:41,880 have to put up with right yeah and and 1276 00:51:46,250 --> 00:51:45,359 they they they they don't yell like we 1277 00:51:51,049 --> 00:51:46,260 do 1278 00:51:55,270 --> 00:51:51,059 um we're quiet they yell you know so 1279 00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:55,280 yeah but uh trust me being a skeptic 1280 00:52:03,530 --> 00:52:02,510 well let's swing this back around for a 1281 00:52:07,010 --> 00:52:03,540 second 1282 00:52:09,470 --> 00:52:07,020 um before we hit the break there appears 1283 00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:09,480 to be 1284 00:52:16,569 --> 00:52:12,960 um that I've experienced this myself 1285 00:52:19,490 --> 00:52:16,579 um a a Consciousness type of connection 1286 00:52:21,829 --> 00:52:19,500 I I don't know what it is I haven't 1287 00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:21,839 figured it out science hasn't figured 1288 00:52:27,410 --> 00:52:24,480 out Consciousness we're not at that 1289 00:52:30,349 --> 00:52:27,420 level of knowledge yet we're you know as 1290 00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:30,359 a as human beings we haven't we haven't 1291 00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:32,640 quite gotten there but we know that 1292 00:52:37,130 --> 00:52:35,040 exists 1293 00:52:41,089 --> 00:52:37,140 we just don't know anything about it and 1294 00:52:44,809 --> 00:52:41,099 we we don't but it appears that E.T does 1295 00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:44,819 and absolutely they know they know they 1296 00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:48,720 I mean if if you're sitting around like 1297 00:52:52,190 --> 00:52:50,160 you said with a group of friends and you 1298 00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:52,200 go man it'd be pretty cool to see 1299 00:52:57,109 --> 00:52:54,480 something and all of a sudden yeah I 1300 00:53:00,950 --> 00:52:57,119 mean like this yeah yeah 1301 00:53:03,109 --> 00:53:00,960 that that says something to me 1302 00:53:05,390 --> 00:53:03,119 absolutely yeah there is a hyper 1303 00:53:07,309 --> 00:53:05,400 Awareness on their part 1304 00:53:09,950 --> 00:53:07,319 um and I've noticed as well with people 1305 00:53:11,930 --> 00:53:09,960 who see the phenomenon a lot uh they 1306 00:53:15,170 --> 00:53:11,940 tend to have uh 1307 00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:15,180 it seems to be an attraction uh for them 1308 00:53:18,109 --> 00:53:17,280 uh with certain individuals on this 1309 00:53:20,329 --> 00:53:18,119 Earth 1310 00:53:22,130 --> 00:53:20,339 um and and a connection 1311 00:53:25,370 --> 00:53:22,140 um which I can't explain 1312 00:53:27,349 --> 00:53:25,380 um why why do some people see dozens or 1313 00:53:29,690 --> 00:53:27,359 even tens of dozens in their lifetime 1314 00:53:31,730 --> 00:53:29,700 and some people might see one where 1315 00:53:34,849 --> 00:53:31,740 other people won't see anything in a 1316 00:53:36,109 --> 00:53:34,859 dozen lifetimes you know it's just maybe 1317 00:53:38,030 --> 00:53:36,119 you know because a lot of people 1318 00:53:39,230 --> 00:53:38,040 attitudes are changing now a lot of 1319 00:53:40,730 --> 00:53:39,240 people used to just walk around looking 1320 00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:40,740 at their feet when they'd walk to work 1321 00:53:45,109 --> 00:53:42,240 or whatever and not look up at the sky 1322 00:53:46,910 --> 00:53:45,119 and who knows uh you know I think a lot 1323 00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:46,920 of it has to do with also you know the 1324 00:53:50,630 --> 00:53:48,960 way that it was rubbished going you know 1325 00:53:53,089 --> 00:53:50,640 like people who believe in it are crazy 1326 00:53:56,030 --> 00:53:53,099 or not cases or whatever and that's been 1327 00:53:58,370 --> 00:53:56,040 good enough for many many years to keep 1328 00:54:00,230 --> 00:53:58,380 a lot of people quiet when they see 1329 00:54:01,670 --> 00:54:00,240 something you know because people don't 1330 00:54:02,870 --> 00:54:01,680 want to be ridiculed they don't want to 1331 00:54:04,370 --> 00:54:02,880 be rubbish they don't want to be told 1332 00:54:06,589 --> 00:54:04,380 that they're crazy for something they 1333 00:54:09,049 --> 00:54:06,599 saw you know so a lot of people just be 1334 00:54:10,670 --> 00:54:09,059 quiet about it and unfortunately we 1335 00:54:12,589 --> 00:54:10,680 don't know the true numbers of people 1336 00:54:14,510 --> 00:54:12,599 who've seen it because most people won't 1337 00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:14,520 even open up about it when they have 1338 00:54:19,609 --> 00:54:17,760 seen it and like me myself I'm a big 1339 00:54:22,010 --> 00:54:19,619 mouth about it like every when I was 1340 00:54:24,349 --> 00:54:22,020 younger I'd go to a party I'd bring up 1341 00:54:26,210 --> 00:54:24,359 UFOs just to ruffle some feathers you 1342 00:54:27,950 --> 00:54:26,220 know and see what people say or see if 1343 00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:27,960 people were into it or if other people 1344 00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:29,760 had seen it and you might get one or two 1345 00:54:33,410 --> 00:54:31,440 people who would eventually open up an 1346 00:54:34,970 --> 00:54:33,420 iOS or something that other people were 1347 00:54:36,650 --> 00:54:34,980 like oh they can't exist because they 1348 00:54:37,910 --> 00:54:36,660 can't travel faster than the speed of 1349 00:54:39,650 --> 00:54:37,920 light and all that kind of stuff you 1350 00:54:43,309 --> 00:54:39,660 know that Skeptics have been saying for 1351 00:54:45,230 --> 00:54:43,319 years and uh we have no idea like you 1352 00:54:47,150 --> 00:54:45,240 said we have no idea about the reality 1353 00:54:50,930 --> 00:54:47,160 of Consciousness we have no idea about 1354 00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:50,940 really why we're here what we are what 1355 00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:53,280 created us there's so many questions and 1356 00:54:58,309 --> 00:54:55,920 I mean those questions have probably may 1357 00:55:00,230 --> 00:54:58,319 never be answered but questions that at 1358 00:55:02,089 --> 00:55:00,240 least if the people are looking into it 1359 00:55:04,609 --> 00:55:02,099 you know I've tried to find the answer 1360 00:55:06,109 --> 00:55:04,619 and that's just driven me crazy my whole 1361 00:55:07,970 --> 00:55:06,119 life you know but 1362 00:55:10,370 --> 00:55:07,980 um I know it's a worthwhile cause 1363 00:55:12,010 --> 00:55:10,380 because it's something that you know 1364 00:55:13,730 --> 00:55:12,020 we're on the precipice of something 1365 00:55:16,309 --> 00:55:13,740 amazing 1366 00:55:17,089 --> 00:55:16,319 um you know of an understanding and 1367 00:55:18,950 --> 00:55:17,099 maybe 1368 00:55:20,829 --> 00:55:18,960 um this might do something to our 1369 00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:20,839 Consciousness this may the understanding 1370 00:55:26,809 --> 00:55:23,520 worldwide that we're not alone you know 1371 00:55:29,329 --> 00:55:26,819 could possibly down the track just open 1372 00:55:31,609 --> 00:55:29,339 us up to to other possibilities open up 1373 00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:31,619 other parts of our brains we don't know 1374 00:55:35,930 --> 00:55:34,559 what a lot of our brains do really a lot 1375 00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:35,940 of the parts of our brain are still 1376 00:55:41,390 --> 00:55:38,640 unknown and like there was a study with 1377 00:55:43,730 --> 00:55:41,400 Harvard uh recently uh sorry about three 1378 00:55:47,030 --> 00:55:43,740 and a bit years ago and I was asked to 1379 00:55:49,490 --> 00:55:47,040 go into it as well and it was in regards 1380 00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:49,500 to people like myself who see a lot of 1381 00:55:55,250 --> 00:55:52,319 UFOs over their lifetime and they found 1382 00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:55,260 that in a lot of these people who were 1383 00:55:59,750 --> 00:55:57,119 in the study 1384 00:56:03,230 --> 00:55:59,760 um they have an area of the brain that 1385 00:56:05,630 --> 00:56:03,240 lights up under an MRI scan that doesn't 1386 00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:05,640 light up in most of the population and 1387 00:56:09,470 --> 00:56:07,440 this one area of the brain we still 1388 00:56:11,569 --> 00:56:09,480 doesn't we still do not know what this 1389 00:56:13,790 --> 00:56:11,579 part of the brain does and that's how it 1390 00:56:15,950 --> 00:56:13,800 was described to me by a post-doctorate 1391 00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:15,960 scholar who was working on this I 1392 00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:18,240 believe uh in connection with Stanford 1393 00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:21,119 University as well and um so yeah that 1394 00:56:26,510 --> 00:56:23,760 it's not in every person who sees UFOs 1395 00:56:28,309 --> 00:56:26,520 but it was it's in a good number number 1396 00:56:30,290 --> 00:56:28,319 of these people who see UFOs this part 1397 00:56:33,470 --> 00:56:30,300 of the brain lighting up under MRI so 1398 00:56:35,690 --> 00:56:33,480 that was completely unknown but there 1399 00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:35,700 you go there's another curveball it's it 1400 00:56:40,370 --> 00:56:38,160 doesn't appear in everybody but only in 1401 00:56:42,770 --> 00:56:40,380 some people so it doesn't describe it 1402 00:56:44,150 --> 00:56:42,780 for everybody that that's a reason you 1403 00:56:46,670 --> 00:56:44,160 know and maybe this part of the brain 1404 00:56:49,609 --> 00:56:46,680 does something like it you know is the 1405 00:56:50,870 --> 00:56:49,619 connection with these beings and and 1406 00:56:52,370 --> 00:56:50,880 that's the part of the brain they 1407 00:56:54,349 --> 00:56:52,380 communicate through because maybe that 1408 00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:54,359 might be part of the brain that's used 1409 00:56:58,370 --> 00:56:56,640 as psychic abilities or this kind of 1410 00:57:00,170 --> 00:56:58,380 thing and one thing I have noticed with 1411 00:57:02,150 --> 00:57:00,180 people who have seen or what we call 1412 00:57:04,069 --> 00:57:02,160 experiences who've seen a lot of these 1413 00:57:05,630 --> 00:57:04,079 this phenomenon is that a lot of them 1414 00:57:08,690 --> 00:57:05,640 send to have psychic abilities 1415 00:57:10,910 --> 00:57:08,700 themselves and they're aware or they 1416 00:57:12,910 --> 00:57:10,920 know when UFOs are around and I've felt 1417 00:57:16,190 --> 00:57:12,920 these UFOs too I felt the heavy 1418 00:57:19,010 --> 00:57:16,200 electrical feeling the the weighing down 1419 00:57:20,990 --> 00:57:19,020 the the paranoia the anxiety that comes 1420 00:57:23,390 --> 00:57:21,000 when they're around and I felt that a 1421 00:57:25,670 --> 00:57:23,400 number of times in my life and when I 1422 00:57:28,130 --> 00:57:25,680 used to feel it I'd go outside and not 1423 00:57:29,630 --> 00:57:28,140 every time but maybe four times out of 1424 00:57:31,490 --> 00:57:29,640 ten or five times out of ten there'd be 1425 00:57:34,250 --> 00:57:31,500 a UFO hanging up in the sky would just 1426 00:57:36,950 --> 00:57:34,260 take off and I would be like that was 1427 00:57:39,770 --> 00:57:36,960 for me that had to have been for me it's 1428 00:57:41,150 --> 00:57:39,780 just who else was there for or I'd go up 1429 00:57:43,309 --> 00:57:41,160 and look up and then it would appear as 1430 00:57:46,309 --> 00:57:43,319 a bright flash move to the left and then 1431 00:57:48,109 --> 00:57:46,319 zip off at high speeds or just suck in 1432 00:57:50,210 --> 00:57:48,119 on itself and then just disappear or 1433 00:57:53,150 --> 00:57:50,220 they it's just the things they do are 1434 00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:53,160 just incredible it's pretty amazing so 1435 00:57:58,190 --> 00:57:56,400 yeah I you know that I think that if 1436 00:58:00,589 --> 00:57:58,200 people saw this you know everyone saw 1437 00:58:04,370 --> 00:58:00,599 this it would wake people up no doubt 1438 00:58:07,630 --> 00:58:04,380 I'm not so sure I mean I've often said 1439 00:58:10,130 --> 00:58:07,640 after I've had an incredible sighting 1440 00:58:13,849 --> 00:58:10,140 that uh 1441 00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:13,859 um and there have been periods in my 1442 00:58:19,790 --> 00:58:17,280 life where I've I've been a serious 1443 00:58:21,589 --> 00:58:19,800 member of the media right speaking to 1444 00:58:25,190 --> 00:58:21,599 millions of people every night and doing 1445 00:58:26,109 --> 00:58:25,200 and I thought to myself 1446 00:58:28,970 --> 00:58:26,119 um 1447 00:58:34,130 --> 00:58:28,980 would I'm gonna I'm gonna speak about 1448 00:58:36,770 --> 00:58:34,140 this but would Anderson Cooper or speak 1449 00:58:40,370 --> 00:58:36,780 about this would you know would some 1450 00:58:41,870 --> 00:58:40,380 member of the media uh you know say it 1451 00:58:46,970 --> 00:58:41,880 was somebody with a huge fear of 1452 00:58:49,970 --> 00:58:46,980 influence that just saw what I just saw 1453 00:58:52,490 --> 00:58:49,980 would they go on the Nightly News the 1454 00:58:55,490 --> 00:58:52,500 next night and say hey I was out last 1455 00:58:56,450 --> 00:58:55,500 night and I saw a UFO I just don't think 1456 00:59:00,589 --> 00:58:56,460 they would 1457 00:59:03,049 --> 00:59:00,599 no absolutely not maybe today it's a 1458 00:59:06,410 --> 00:59:03,059 different kind of world you know we had 1459 00:59:08,569 --> 00:59:06,420 uh I don't know if you know this guy 1460 00:59:13,190 --> 00:59:08,579 um he's not on TV anymore his name was 1461 00:59:15,770 --> 00:59:13,200 uh Tucker Carlson oh yeah oh you know 1462 00:59:19,849 --> 00:59:15,780 Tucker okay so uh good old Tucker yeah 1463 00:59:21,589 --> 00:59:19,859 yeah well he's no longer employed so uh 1464 00:59:25,130 --> 00:59:21,599 but that's another story that's another 1465 00:59:27,170 --> 00:59:25,140 story but Tucker at least would cover 1466 00:59:30,530 --> 00:59:27,180 this 1467 00:59:32,569 --> 00:59:30,540 um yeah and and we had Larry King for a 1468 00:59:33,770 --> 00:59:32,579 minute you know he's no longer with us 1469 00:59:36,890 --> 00:59:33,780 but 1470 00:59:39,410 --> 00:59:36,900 um and we had a couple of members of the 1471 00:59:43,190 --> 00:59:39,420 media but we've got thousands of Talking 1472 00:59:46,250 --> 00:59:43,200 Heads across this country and only a few 1473 00:59:49,010 --> 00:59:46,260 will roll the dice and that's that's the 1474 00:59:51,770 --> 00:59:49,020 difference and you know Ross 1475 00:59:56,450 --> 00:59:51,780 um Ross is a very important person in 1476 01:00:00,410 --> 00:59:56,460 the media in Australia and he has taken 1477 01:00:02,329 --> 01:00:00,420 in the has made the choice 1478 01:00:04,549 --> 01:00:02,339 um to cover this very important subject 1479 01:00:06,289 --> 01:00:04,559 and he's got a lot of connections I 1480 01:00:07,609 --> 01:00:06,299 don't know if you've read his book in 1481 01:00:11,870 --> 01:00:07,619 plain sight 1482 01:00:16,190 --> 01:00:11,880 but uh I have I have it and I also have 1483 01:00:19,609 --> 01:00:16,200 the audio book that he reads he narrates 1484 01:00:22,910 --> 01:00:19,619 his own audiobook all right yeah yeah 1485 01:00:25,130 --> 01:00:22,920 okay I've got an immense amount of 1486 01:00:26,510 --> 01:00:25,140 respect for Ross 1487 01:00:29,750 --> 01:00:26,520 um he 1488 01:00:32,510 --> 01:00:29,760 he is not going to bend on this and it 1489 01:00:35,329 --> 01:00:32,520 seems that you know after all of this 1490 01:00:38,690 --> 01:00:35,339 hard work he may have broken you know 1491 01:00:40,990 --> 01:00:38,700 the the story of the century and and 1492 01:00:45,410 --> 01:00:41,000 let's just hope that it it it 1493 01:00:48,970 --> 01:00:45,420 the the the the people deserve somebody 1494 01:00:52,150 --> 01:00:48,980 like Ross you know or myself and others 1495 01:00:55,789 --> 01:00:52,160 to to not give up 1496 01:00:58,130 --> 01:00:55,799 absolutely we can't 1497 01:00:59,870 --> 01:00:58,140 no you gotta you gotta use your platform 1498 01:01:02,089 --> 01:00:59,880 and continue to do what you're doing 1499 01:01:03,829 --> 01:01:02,099 because like you said that there are a 1500 01:01:05,270 --> 01:01:03,839 lot of people out there talking but 1501 01:01:06,890 --> 01:01:05,280 talking about different things this is 1502 01:01:09,049 --> 01:01:06,900 an important subject this is something 1503 01:01:11,089 --> 01:01:09,059 that affects all of humanity and it will 1504 01:01:12,710 --> 01:01:11,099 affect us into the future and it's 1505 01:01:15,190 --> 01:01:12,720 something that we're on the precipice of 1506 01:01:17,990 --> 01:01:15,200 and yeah you can't give up now it's just 1507 01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:18,000 considering how far the the phenomenon 1508 01:01:21,950 --> 01:01:19,920 has come in the public eye and just in 1509 01:01:24,589 --> 01:01:21,960 the last few years it's just incredible 1510 01:01:26,750 --> 01:01:24,599 so yeah there's no giving up now that 1511 01:01:28,490 --> 01:01:26,760 definitely don't that's that's don't 1512 01:01:31,789 --> 01:01:28,500 give up 1513 01:01:34,370 --> 01:01:31,799 Let's uh take our break our guest Damian 1514 01:01:37,910 --> 01:01:34,380 John Knott out of Australia I'm your 1515 01:01:39,829 --> 01:01:37,920 host Jimmy church we'll be right back 1516 01:01:42,109 --> 01:01:39,839 this is Jimmy Church of Fade to Black 1517 01:01:44,329 --> 01:01:42,119 please visit all of our sponsors we're 1518 01:01:46,130 --> 01:01:44,339 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Moon coffee makers of the Fade to 1603 01:05:14,410 --> 01:05:12,599 Black blend truly the best coffee on 1604 01:05:16,670 --> 01:05:14,420 planet Earth just visit 1605 01:05:18,530 --> 01:05:16,680 rivermoonwellness.com or their Amazon 1606 01:05:19,970 --> 01:05:18,540 store it's all simple to do you can 1607 01:05:22,069 --> 01:05:19,980 check out the Fade to Black blend the 1608 01:05:24,710 --> 01:05:22,079 game changer Blend or any of their black 1609 01:05:28,490 --> 01:05:24,720 moon wellness products it's the only 1610 01:05:33,289 --> 01:05:28,500 coffee I drink it is the best and it's 1611 01:05:37,849 --> 01:05:35,930 all right Welcome Back Fade to Black I 1612 01:05:41,569 --> 01:05:37,859 am your host to be church tonight live 1613 01:05:43,430 --> 01:05:41,579 from Australia Damian John Knott he's a 1614 01:05:47,030 --> 01:05:43,440 filmmaker he's got a lot of films out 1615 01:05:50,270 --> 01:05:47,040 he's got a couple more coming out and uh 1616 01:05:53,510 --> 01:05:50,280 I want to take some time uh now Damien 1617 01:05:56,510 --> 01:05:53,520 if we can to talk about your techniques 1618 01:05:59,750 --> 01:05:56,520 um you've got a heck of a rig uh behind 1619 01:06:03,650 --> 01:05:59,760 you uh I I thought I had a nice set up 1620 01:06:06,349 --> 01:06:03,660 here in the studio but uh uh that's uh 1621 01:06:11,710 --> 01:06:06,359 that's pretty impressive uh take us 1622 01:06:14,150 --> 01:06:11,720 through how do you capture uh uh uh 1623 01:06:16,450 --> 01:06:14,160 objects in the sky uh what's your 1624 01:06:19,549 --> 01:06:16,460 process 1625 01:06:22,609 --> 01:06:19,559 uh well I have about 50 some oh I had 1626 01:06:25,130 --> 01:06:22,619 about 50 something cameras so normally 1627 01:06:27,170 --> 01:06:25,140 um it depends really like a lot of my 1628 01:06:29,510 --> 01:06:27,180 captures are just spur at the moment 1629 01:06:32,510 --> 01:06:29,520 things uh where I'll just either get a 1630 01:06:34,910 --> 01:06:32,520 feeling go outside I'll take um you know 1631 01:06:36,710 --> 01:06:34,920 either my Olympus or but it depends 1632 01:06:38,930 --> 01:06:36,720 really if I'm shooting day or night I'll 1633 01:06:40,490 --> 01:06:38,940 use different cameras but 1634 01:06:42,529 --> 01:06:40,500 um a lot of the times you just have 1635 01:06:44,809 --> 01:06:42,539 enough time to grab whatever's on hand 1636 01:06:46,849 --> 01:06:44,819 as quick as possible and because as you 1637 01:06:49,010 --> 01:06:46,859 know the UFO phenomenon is quite 1638 01:06:50,029 --> 01:06:49,020 fleeting it doesn't really last for too 1639 01:06:52,910 --> 01:06:50,039 too long 1640 01:06:55,250 --> 01:06:52,920 um you know some sightings do but 1641 01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:55,260 um yeah normally like if I'm out on a uh 1642 01:06:59,210 --> 01:06:57,839 filming a documentary or I'm out in the 1643 01:07:01,970 --> 01:06:59,220 field or something like that or I'm in a 1644 01:07:03,710 --> 01:07:01,980 hot spot area I'll I'll take my rig and 1645 01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:03,720 I'll set it up and have multiple cameras 1646 01:07:09,230 --> 01:07:06,480 going so I'll have infrared thermal 1647 01:07:13,370 --> 01:07:09,240 um I'll have a DSLR going I'll have a 1648 01:07:16,549 --> 01:07:13,380 regular film camera 4K filming um I'll 1649 01:07:17,210 --> 01:07:16,559 also have uh you know EMF meters 1650 01:07:19,549 --> 01:07:17,220 um 1651 01:07:22,970 --> 01:07:19,559 a lot of other equipment as well just in 1652 01:07:24,470 --> 01:07:22,980 case uh trail cameras you name it just 1653 01:07:26,930 --> 01:07:24,480 anything that can really capture 1654 01:07:29,690 --> 01:07:26,940 something on the spur at the moment but 1655 01:07:32,270 --> 01:07:29,700 um I do use a lot of what's called 1656 01:07:34,849 --> 01:07:32,280 composite live composite photography 1657 01:07:37,970 --> 01:07:34,859 which is an Olympus thing Olympus brand 1658 01:07:39,710 --> 01:07:37,980 camera thing where they do it it's more 1659 01:07:42,289 --> 01:07:39,720 for night time but you can use it during 1660 01:07:44,750 --> 01:07:42,299 daytime if you have a neutral density 1661 01:07:47,930 --> 01:07:44,760 filter and but it's um 1662 01:07:50,990 --> 01:07:47,940 layers photographs on top so it if a UFO 1663 01:07:53,870 --> 01:07:51,000 comes in just say it will capture the 1664 01:07:56,450 --> 01:07:53,880 UFO and follow the trail of it until it 1665 01:07:58,430 --> 01:07:56,460 leaves or whatever the case is and so a 1666 01:08:00,770 --> 01:07:58,440 lot of the nighttime footage 1667 01:08:04,609 --> 01:08:00,780 um you know in a way it's a lazy way of 1668 01:08:08,510 --> 01:08:04,619 you know capturing a UFO but it's it's a 1669 01:08:09,529 --> 01:08:08,520 technology that is adaptable for UFO 1670 01:08:11,089 --> 01:08:09,539 hunting 1671 01:08:13,910 --> 01:08:11,099 um and it is actually quite incredible 1672 01:08:16,430 --> 01:08:13,920 I've got some of my most beautiful 1673 01:08:18,890 --> 01:08:16,440 photographs of this phenomenon in that 1674 01:08:21,169 --> 01:08:18,900 way but what I try and do is I try and 1675 01:08:23,090 --> 01:08:21,179 film especially if I'm out or I'm you 1676 01:08:26,209 --> 01:08:23,100 know documentary or in a hot spot area 1677 01:08:28,309 --> 01:08:26,219 already most rigs are in Practical you 1678 01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:28,319 can't just pick up a huge rig when a UFO 1679 01:08:32,329 --> 01:08:30,000 is out there and you know run outside 1680 01:08:33,650 --> 01:08:32,339 and and set it up and then set all the 1681 01:08:35,990 --> 01:08:33,660 cameras on by the time you've done that 1682 01:08:38,150 --> 01:08:36,000 the thing's gone so it's only really 1683 01:08:39,530 --> 01:08:38,160 unuseful if you're setting up in an area 1684 01:08:40,970 --> 01:08:39,540 and you're going to be around there for 1685 01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:40,980 a while and you're going to be observing 1686 01:08:44,990 --> 01:08:42,960 the sky in a certain direction so 1687 01:08:47,570 --> 01:08:45,000 multiple cameras all filming at the same 1688 01:08:49,130 --> 01:08:47,580 time and I learned that years ago um uh 1689 01:08:51,050 --> 01:08:49,140 one of the Skeptics here in Australia 1690 01:08:53,269 --> 01:08:51,060 said oh you know it could be a camera 1691 01:08:55,550 --> 01:08:53,279 anomaly on One camera so I figured well 1692 01:08:57,410 --> 01:08:55,560 if I have five or six cameras and 1693 01:08:58,910 --> 01:08:57,420 they're capturing the same thing well 1694 01:09:01,490 --> 01:08:58,920 it's not a camera anomaly because that 1695 01:09:03,769 --> 01:09:01,500 anomaly won't stretch from One camera to 1696 01:09:05,930 --> 01:09:03,779 another if it's a single camera anomaly 1697 01:09:08,570 --> 01:09:05,940 so if you're capturing the same thing on 1698 01:09:10,070 --> 01:09:08,580 every camera more than likely it was 1699 01:09:12,050 --> 01:09:10,080 something that was in the air and it's 1700 01:09:13,870 --> 01:09:12,060 not on a you know a benign camera 1701 01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:13,880 anomaly or whatever over the case is so 1702 01:09:19,189 --> 01:09:17,040 most of the footage I have I'll have you 1703 01:09:20,870 --> 01:09:19,199 know several photographs up to a couple 1704 01:09:23,030 --> 01:09:20,880 hundred photographs depending on the 1705 01:09:25,610 --> 01:09:23,040 length of the siding I'll also have 1706 01:09:27,530 --> 01:09:25,620 video going along with that infrared 1707 01:09:30,289 --> 01:09:27,540 daytime footage 1708 01:09:32,329 --> 01:09:30,299 um or you know thermal as well all at 1709 01:09:34,729 --> 01:09:32,339 the same time so you're capturing it on 1710 01:09:36,769 --> 01:09:34,739 different you know implements and 1711 01:09:39,650 --> 01:09:36,779 different formats and I think that's the 1712 01:09:41,269 --> 01:09:39,660 best way to do it it can rule out you 1713 01:09:43,370 --> 01:09:41,279 know as I said camera anomalies and that 1714 01:09:45,110 --> 01:09:43,380 kind of thing it also gives you better 1715 01:09:47,030 --> 01:09:45,120 evidence of what you're capturing as 1716 01:09:48,530 --> 01:09:47,040 well so I can show you 1717 01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:48,540 um you know a lot of these things are 1718 01:09:53,150 --> 01:09:50,880 invisible to the naked eye and so you 1719 01:09:57,590 --> 01:09:53,160 know if you're using a infrared to say 1720 01:09:59,630 --> 01:09:57,600 r72 filter with an old infrared camera 1721 01:10:01,610 --> 01:09:59,640 um you can pick up some incredible stuff 1722 01:10:04,070 --> 01:10:01,620 during the daytime that the eyes can't 1723 01:10:07,610 --> 01:10:04,080 see so I'll have one camera that's 1724 01:10:09,890 --> 01:10:07,620 regular 4K one filming in 4k with an 1725 01:10:11,870 --> 01:10:09,900 infrared filter over it and so side by 1726 01:10:13,669 --> 01:10:11,880 side you won't see anything on the 1727 01:10:15,770 --> 01:10:13,679 regular camera but same time you're 1728 01:10:17,570 --> 01:10:15,780 witnessing a ball of light zip around on 1729 01:10:20,149 --> 01:10:17,580 the camera just next to it and they're 1730 01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:20,159 focus on the same spot in the sky so I I 1731 01:10:23,390 --> 01:10:22,320 believe that's great evidence it's good 1732 01:10:25,490 --> 01:10:23,400 evidence showing that there's something 1733 01:10:27,110 --> 01:10:25,500 anomalous in the sky the eyes aren't 1734 01:10:29,570 --> 01:10:27,120 picking it up regular cameras aren't 1735 01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:29,580 picking up maybe because the IR spectrum 1736 01:10:33,890 --> 01:10:31,199 in regular cameras isn't strong enough 1737 01:10:36,890 --> 01:10:33,900 it's not far across enough but with an 1738 01:10:39,770 --> 01:10:36,900 r72 filter or whatever the case is you 1739 01:10:42,770 --> 01:10:39,780 can really pick these things up and 1740 01:10:44,930 --> 01:10:42,780 just yeah multiple cameras multiple 1741 01:10:47,090 --> 01:10:44,940 formats at the same time of the same 1742 01:10:50,750 --> 01:10:47,100 phenomenon and and that's the way I I 1743 01:10:53,630 --> 01:10:50,760 prefer to to work it myself 1744 01:10:55,729 --> 01:10:53,640 you said that you had a siding uh when 1745 01:10:59,649 --> 01:10:55,739 you were nine years old 1746 01:11:04,250 --> 01:10:59,659 um what was that was that a physical 1747 01:11:07,189 --> 01:11:04,260 craft or was that a ball of light 1748 01:11:08,990 --> 01:11:07,199 that was a red ball of light 1749 01:11:11,689 --> 01:11:09,000 um again it was probably the size of a 1750 01:11:13,010 --> 01:11:11,699 basketball uh I was walking home it was 1751 01:11:14,689 --> 01:11:13,020 a Sunday evening 1752 01:11:17,570 --> 01:11:14,699 um I was late for I was coming back from 1753 01:11:19,250 --> 01:11:17,580 a friend's place playing you know soccer 1754 01:11:21,169 --> 01:11:19,260 or whatever we're doing 1755 01:11:23,149 --> 01:11:21,179 um I had my skateboard and I got to the 1756 01:11:25,910 --> 01:11:23,159 top of the hill in the street adjacent 1757 01:11:27,530 --> 01:11:25,920 to mine and right at the top I don't 1758 01:11:29,090 --> 01:11:27,540 know why I did it but I was about to 1759 01:11:31,130 --> 01:11:29,100 jump on the skateboard and skate down 1760 01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:31,140 the hill and I looked up and I don't 1761 01:11:36,470 --> 01:11:32,880 know why to this day I looked up but 1762 01:11:39,050 --> 01:11:36,480 this thing was maybe about 12 to 15 feet 1763 01:11:40,970 --> 01:11:39,060 above me going by memory it sort of 1764 01:11:42,470 --> 01:11:40,980 burnt into my memory but as a kid you 1765 01:11:44,750 --> 01:11:42,480 know you're a bit weird with distances 1766 01:11:46,130 --> 01:11:44,760 but I know it was really close and I was 1767 01:11:48,530 --> 01:11:46,140 watching it I was watching the 1768 01:11:50,930 --> 01:11:48,540 brightness of it everything and what it 1769 01:11:53,149 --> 01:11:50,940 did was I I just thought for a second 1770 01:11:55,010 --> 01:11:53,159 okay and I took my attention off it like 1771 01:11:57,350 --> 01:11:55,020 it didn't bother me and I kept walking 1772 01:11:59,870 --> 01:11:57,360 but then I looked up again and it was 1773 01:12:02,990 --> 01:11:59,880 still above me so what I noticed was 1774 01:12:04,729 --> 01:12:03,000 when I stopped walking it had stopped as 1775 01:12:07,970 --> 01:12:04,739 well and then when I continued walking 1776 01:12:10,030 --> 01:12:07,980 it followed me and kept kept pace with 1777 01:12:12,830 --> 01:12:10,040 me and so after about 1778 01:12:15,290 --> 01:12:12,840 10 seconds it was very quick but at the 1779 01:12:17,450 --> 01:12:15,300 time it seemed to go forever I I watched 1780 01:12:19,010 --> 01:12:17,460 it do this a few times then I became a 1781 01:12:21,110 --> 01:12:19,020 little bit frightful I was like what's 1782 01:12:23,090 --> 01:12:21,120 going on that's not a plane it's not 1783 01:12:24,709 --> 01:12:23,100 anything it's it's right here what's 1784 01:12:26,149 --> 01:12:24,719 going on I'm looking around to see if 1785 01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:26,159 anyone else is seeing this thing 1786 01:12:29,870 --> 01:12:28,320 everyone's indoors there was no cars 1787 01:12:31,310 --> 01:12:29,880 coming or anything I was like oh what's 1788 01:12:32,810 --> 01:12:31,320 going on 1789 01:12:34,490 --> 01:12:32,820 um even for a nine-year-old I knew it 1790 01:12:36,050 --> 01:12:34,500 was something strange and I remember the 1791 01:12:37,610 --> 01:12:36,060 rest of the way instead of skating down 1792 01:12:39,470 --> 01:12:37,620 the hill because it was a bit you know 1793 01:12:41,390 --> 01:12:39,480 bumpy and with the asphalt and 1794 01:12:43,010 --> 01:12:41,400 everything I grabbed my skateboard under 1795 01:12:44,510 --> 01:12:43,020 my arm and I sprinted the rest of the 1796 01:12:46,850 --> 01:12:44,520 way home you know and I remember get 1797 01:12:49,370 --> 01:12:46,860 jumping up on the balcony really excited 1798 01:12:50,990 --> 01:12:49,380 and scared but excited and I told my mom 1799 01:12:52,189 --> 01:12:51,000 and she was where have you been and I'm 1800 01:12:54,410 --> 01:12:52,199 like oh you're not gonna believe I just 1801 01:12:55,370 --> 01:12:54,420 saw this and my mum straight away said I 1802 01:12:56,810 --> 01:12:55,380 explained it to her and she said oh 1803 01:12:58,310 --> 01:12:56,820 you've probably seen an airplane I was 1804 01:13:00,410 --> 01:12:58,320 probably just a plane I said no I wasn't 1805 01:13:02,630 --> 01:13:00,420 it wasn't a plane and I I knew it was 1806 01:13:06,050 --> 01:13:02,640 and then you know I kind of wanted in a 1807 01:13:08,689 --> 01:13:06,060 way I wanted to prove I'm wrong and I 1808 01:13:10,669 --> 01:13:08,699 know what I saw and so I started like um 1809 01:13:12,709 --> 01:13:10,679 reading books and you know going to the 1810 01:13:14,390 --> 01:13:12,719 school library and looking for books 1811 01:13:16,490 --> 01:13:14,400 about different things and stuff like 1812 01:13:19,130 --> 01:13:16,500 that but I didn't really get into it 1813 01:13:21,590 --> 01:13:19,140 heavily until three years later when um 1814 01:13:24,290 --> 01:13:21,600 I was visiting uh my father for 1815 01:13:26,630 --> 01:13:24,300 visitation and his family and because I 1816 01:13:29,270 --> 01:13:26,640 live separate from from his family and I 1817 01:13:32,030 --> 01:13:29,280 lived with my mother and 1818 01:13:33,770 --> 01:13:32,040 my My Two Step Brothers uh my stepmother 1819 01:13:35,330 --> 01:13:33,780 had two two kids and they were a couple 1820 01:13:38,450 --> 01:13:35,340 years younger than me at the time when I 1821 01:13:40,610 --> 01:13:38,460 was 12. and um I remember in the 1822 01:13:42,169 --> 01:13:40,620 backyard camping out and looking up you 1823 01:13:43,910 --> 01:13:42,179 know just lying on our sleeping bags and 1824 01:13:46,370 --> 01:13:43,920 looking up at the sky and it was a hot 1825 01:13:48,410 --> 01:13:46,380 summer night you know and 1826 01:13:50,390 --> 01:13:48,420 um yeah we we always used to do that you 1827 01:13:52,310 --> 01:13:50,400 know and and just look up at the sky and 1828 01:13:55,010 --> 01:13:52,320 cool down and chat and you know as kids 1829 01:13:57,169 --> 01:13:55,020 do and then all of a sudden this same 1830 01:14:00,350 --> 01:13:57,179 red ball I'd seen three years earlier 1831 01:14:02,689 --> 01:14:00,360 has come is coming down from the sky 1832 01:14:04,669 --> 01:14:02,699 getting bigger and bigger slowly and 1833 01:14:06,110 --> 01:14:04,679 straight away I noticed it and I pointed 1834 01:14:07,970 --> 01:14:06,120 it out I said oh my God that's what I 1835 01:14:10,189 --> 01:14:07,980 saw a couple of years ago to my to my 1836 01:14:11,330 --> 01:14:10,199 brother you know Anthony and Jeffrey and 1837 01:14:12,530 --> 01:14:11,340 um they're like what you know and at 1838 01:14:13,729 --> 01:14:12,540 first they didn't see it then they saw 1839 01:14:15,770 --> 01:14:13,739 it was getting bigger and bigger and 1840 01:14:17,810 --> 01:14:15,780 bigger and it got to a certain height 1841 01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:17,820 and it stopped and then all of a sudden 1842 01:14:24,169 --> 01:14:21,120 on the left a blue a brilliant beautiful 1843 01:14:25,610 --> 01:14:24,179 blue light about the same size 1844 01:14:28,010 --> 01:14:25,620 um probably about the same height just 1845 01:14:30,830 --> 01:14:28,020 came out of nowhere and started chasing 1846 01:14:33,290 --> 01:14:30,840 this red ball around in the sky and I 1847 01:14:36,410 --> 01:14:33,300 did this for about 10 minutes we had 1848 01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:36,420 enough time to call my father out I got 1849 01:14:40,130 --> 01:14:38,400 Anthony my brother to go run inside and 1850 01:14:42,470 --> 01:14:40,140 my stepmother didn't come out but my 1851 01:14:43,790 --> 01:14:42,480 father came out he saw it as well and he 1852 01:14:46,070 --> 01:14:43,800 wasn't too fast he was like oh okay 1853 01:14:47,510 --> 01:14:46,080 that's weird went back inside so we 1854 01:14:50,630 --> 01:14:47,520 stayed out there watching it for 15 1855 01:14:53,090 --> 01:14:50,640 minutes and and it was not only a blue 1856 01:14:54,890 --> 01:14:53,100 UFO chasing this thing around there was 1857 01:14:56,689 --> 01:14:54,900 a greenish yellow one that came into 1858 01:14:59,930 --> 01:14:56,699 play about a minute after the blue one 1859 01:15:02,510 --> 01:14:59,940 came and both of these UFOs or uaps were 1860 01:15:04,370 --> 01:15:02,520 chasing this red ball around the sky so 1861 01:15:06,649 --> 01:15:04,380 the red ball would go fast distances 1862 01:15:08,870 --> 01:15:06,659 across the sky and stop at the drop of a 1863 01:15:11,450 --> 01:15:08,880 hat then these other two from wherever 1864 01:15:12,890 --> 01:15:11,460 they were would cut in on it on it at an 1865 01:15:15,290 --> 01:15:12,900 angle and then this thing would 1866 01:15:16,850 --> 01:15:15,300 disappear in this angle while they were 1867 01:15:18,729 --> 01:15:16,860 getting to it here and then they'd 1868 01:15:20,990 --> 01:15:18,739 follow it this this went on for about 1869 01:15:23,330 --> 01:15:21,000 ages one of the longer sightings I've 1870 01:15:25,370 --> 01:15:23,340 ever had and you know it's something 1871 01:15:27,590 --> 01:15:25,380 that stuck with my brothers and I and 1872 01:15:29,630 --> 01:15:27,600 even to this day when we catch up still 1873 01:15:31,610 --> 01:15:29,640 it's one of the first things we speak 1874 01:15:33,890 --> 01:15:31,620 about because it really affected us when 1875 01:15:35,570 --> 01:15:33,900 we were younger so it was exciting and 1876 01:15:36,890 --> 01:15:35,580 they all eventually took off in One 1877 01:15:38,689 --> 01:15:36,900 Direction and they followed this red 1878 01:15:41,270 --> 01:15:38,699 ball that just disappeared off this way 1879 01:15:42,649 --> 01:15:41,280 they all just disappeared following it I 1880 01:15:44,689 --> 01:15:42,659 just thought that's weird it was like 1881 01:15:46,490 --> 01:15:44,699 they were playing a game of tag or they 1882 01:15:48,229 --> 01:15:46,500 were doing something or it was like a 1883 01:15:50,330 --> 01:15:48,239 little war or something they were 1884 01:15:52,250 --> 01:15:50,340 chasing it away it seemed like they were 1885 01:15:54,830 --> 01:15:52,260 chasing this red ball away from my 1886 01:15:57,590 --> 01:15:54,840 brothers and I which is really that's 1887 01:16:00,050 --> 01:15:57,600 the impression that I've been left with 1888 01:16:02,390 --> 01:16:00,060 for many many years afterwards and 1889 01:16:05,030 --> 01:16:02,400 that's how it felt at the time and I've 1890 01:16:06,290 --> 01:16:05,040 looked up other stories and of very 1891 01:16:08,870 --> 01:16:06,300 similar things 1892 01:16:10,970 --> 01:16:08,880 um and Jacques valet and Chris orbeck in 1893 01:16:13,729 --> 01:16:10,980 their book uh wonders in the sky they 1894 01:16:16,130 --> 01:16:13,739 released I think in 2019 uh it goes into 1895 01:16:17,450 --> 01:16:16,140 a lot of old cases very similar cases 1896 01:16:20,209 --> 01:16:17,460 throughout history that have been 1897 01:16:21,410 --> 01:16:20,219 reported there was a case in a German 1898 01:16:22,970 --> 01:16:21,420 city 1899 01:16:24,649 --> 01:16:22,980 um I'm not sure it was a Nuremberg or 1900 01:16:26,149 --> 01:16:24,659 somewhere in I think I believe it was 1901 01:16:27,950 --> 01:16:26,159 the 16th century and there was a 1902 01:16:30,649 --> 01:16:27,960 gentleman walking across a bridge going 1903 01:16:32,930 --> 01:16:30,659 into a small Germantown on and people 1904 01:16:35,630 --> 01:16:32,940 from around the town were watching this 1905 01:16:37,790 --> 01:16:35,640 red ball follow this gentleman across 1906 01:16:39,830 --> 01:16:37,800 the bridge and when he would stop it 1907 01:16:42,169 --> 01:16:39,840 would stop when he would move it would 1908 01:16:44,270 --> 01:16:42,179 move the same thing that happened to me 1909 01:16:46,910 --> 01:16:44,280 when I was nine exactly the same and 1910 01:16:49,370 --> 01:16:46,920 when I read this a couple years ago I 1911 01:16:51,110 --> 01:16:49,380 was like oh my God that's incredible and 1912 01:16:53,689 --> 01:16:51,120 what was happening the people in the 1913 01:16:55,310 --> 01:16:53,699 town in this German Town like the pub 1914 01:16:57,709 --> 01:16:55,320 and all this kind of stuff they were 1915 01:17:00,050 --> 01:16:57,719 closing their doors to this gentleman 1916 01:17:01,790 --> 01:17:00,060 because they believed it was a bad Omen 1917 01:17:03,950 --> 01:17:01,800 what was happening would they what they 1918 01:17:05,689 --> 01:17:03,960 saw following him they didn't want him 1919 01:17:07,490 --> 01:17:05,699 anywhere near them so they shut all 1920 01:17:08,750 --> 01:17:07,500 their doors and shut their shops up and 1921 01:17:11,270 --> 01:17:08,760 everything while he was walking through 1922 01:17:13,250 --> 01:17:11,280 the town and I mean stuff like that's 1923 01:17:16,490 --> 01:17:13,260 incredible that happened you know 500 1924 01:17:18,910 --> 01:17:16,500 years ago and it's still the same 1925 01:17:20,990 --> 01:17:18,920 phenomenon as happening 500 years later 1926 01:17:23,450 --> 01:17:21,000 virtually exactly the same type of 1927 01:17:25,729 --> 01:17:23,460 phenomenon it's just incredible and when 1928 01:17:27,709 --> 01:17:25,739 I saw that that was for me like that 1929 01:17:30,169 --> 01:17:27,719 really hammered at home for me that I 1930 01:17:32,870 --> 01:17:30,179 know what I saw and even though I was a 1931 01:17:35,450 --> 01:17:32,880 little kid it it just it just stuck with 1932 01:17:37,130 --> 01:17:35,460 me and it's stuck with me ever since I 1933 01:17:38,570 --> 01:17:37,140 can't get it out of my head especially 1934 01:17:40,490 --> 01:17:38,580 the two sightings I had when I was 1935 01:17:42,470 --> 01:17:40,500 younger but I've seen many others since 1936 01:17:43,850 --> 01:17:42,480 then um and all different types and 1937 01:17:46,669 --> 01:17:43,860 captured them and 1938 01:17:48,890 --> 01:17:46,679 I just yeah I don't know why I just I I 1939 01:17:52,130 --> 01:17:48,900 find the subject fascinating 1940 01:17:54,649 --> 01:17:52,140 um you know I always have but but here 1941 01:17:57,410 --> 01:17:54,659 is uh you've just made a very important 1942 01:17:58,910 --> 01:17:57,420 Point kind of contradicting what you 1943 01:18:02,510 --> 01:17:58,920 said at the beginning of the show though 1944 01:18:06,770 --> 01:18:02,520 I love that part which is this 1945 01:18:09,530 --> 01:18:06,780 um uh I have seen what I have seen okay 1946 01:18:11,649 --> 01:18:09,540 I have I've seen incredible stuff 1947 01:18:15,169 --> 01:18:11,659 can't explain it 1948 01:18:16,250 --> 01:18:15,179 and I know that things are happening 1949 01:18:19,850 --> 01:18:16,260 today 1950 01:18:21,890 --> 01:18:19,860 but what I really find interesting in my 1951 01:18:26,090 --> 01:18:21,900 research some of the most fascinating 1952 01:18:28,550 --> 01:18:26,100 stuff is the ancient account before 1953 01:18:31,669 --> 01:18:28,560 there were flying machines 1954 01:18:36,410 --> 01:18:31,679 that's we need to really you know when 1955 01:18:40,669 --> 01:18:36,420 you go back to the 1700s 1600s 15 1956 01:18:44,330 --> 01:18:40,679 000 you know 2 000 years ago and you're 1957 01:18:47,330 --> 01:18:44,340 hearing these accounts of things in the 1958 01:18:48,169 --> 01:18:47,340 sky when there was nothing flying in the 1959 01:18:51,530 --> 01:18:48,179 sky 1960 01:18:53,750 --> 01:18:51,540 exactly extremely interesting and that's 1961 01:18:55,310 --> 01:18:53,760 why that's why I think it's very 1962 01:18:59,930 --> 01:18:55,320 important 1963 01:19:02,930 --> 01:18:59,940 um the phenomenon today is real but if 1964 01:19:06,410 --> 01:19:02,940 we are in possession of a craft that we 1965 01:19:08,750 --> 01:19:06,420 recovered 50 years ago and didn't inform 1966 01:19:12,110 --> 01:19:08,760 the world about it that no that's really 1967 01:19:14,030 --> 01:19:12,120 big news and and that's that's why the 1968 01:19:16,550 --> 01:19:14,040 historical part about this is so 1969 01:19:18,890 --> 01:19:16,560 important but I wanted to ask you 1970 01:19:20,510 --> 01:19:18,900 because you you've raised this now a few 1971 01:19:21,290 --> 01:19:20,520 times 1972 01:19:26,470 --> 01:19:21,300 um 1973 01:19:28,910 --> 01:19:26,480 why why do you think the types of UFOs 1974 01:19:33,590 --> 01:19:28,920 have changed 1975 01:19:36,229 --> 01:19:33,600 you know and and I wonder if we have 1976 01:19:39,709 --> 01:19:36,239 gone from these metallic you know 1977 01:19:42,770 --> 01:19:39,719 objects in the sky to things that are 1978 01:19:45,530 --> 01:19:42,780 harder to detect because 1979 01:19:48,290 --> 01:19:45,540 ET knows we're a technical Civilization 1980 01:19:52,430 --> 01:19:48,300 now we have radar we have satellites 1981 01:19:55,490 --> 01:19:52,440 yeah we have ways of detecting them so 1982 01:19:58,490 --> 01:19:55,500 they know this right and so now so 1983 01:20:00,310 --> 01:19:58,500 they're adapting they're adapting that's 1984 01:20:03,050 --> 01:20:00,320 part of that 1985 01:20:04,970 --> 01:20:03,060 absolutely that that's could quite well 1986 01:20:07,430 --> 01:20:04,980 be a part of it and you know there was a 1987 01:20:09,649 --> 01:20:07,440 theory years ago you know that 1988 01:20:11,750 --> 01:20:09,659 as on Earth here we have multiple 1989 01:20:13,550 --> 01:20:11,760 different types of vehicles cars and 1990 01:20:15,350 --> 01:20:13,560 that kind of stuff there's a theory that 1991 01:20:17,090 --> 01:20:15,360 wherever they come from wherever they're 1992 01:20:18,709 --> 01:20:17,100 coming from they have the same kind of 1993 01:20:20,450 --> 01:20:18,719 thing multiple different types of craft 1994 01:20:22,430 --> 01:20:20,460 all that kind of stuff 1995 01:20:24,890 --> 01:20:22,440 um I I think quite possibly there could 1996 01:20:26,990 --> 01:20:24,900 be a plethora of things happening here 1997 01:20:30,110 --> 01:20:27,000 there could be uh like a lot of the 1998 01:20:32,810 --> 01:20:30,120 older sightings in the 60s and 70s seem 1999 01:20:35,630 --> 01:20:32,820 to follow a certain you know pattern and 2000 01:20:39,050 --> 01:20:35,640 line and stuff like that and then 2001 01:20:40,689 --> 01:20:39,060 nowadays uh things are a bit different 2002 01:20:42,950 --> 01:20:40,699 um the the 2003 01:20:43,910 --> 01:20:42,960 abductions don't seem to be happening as 2004 01:20:45,830 --> 01:20:43,920 often 2005 01:20:47,930 --> 01:20:45,840 um you know the the DNA testing and 2006 01:20:51,649 --> 01:20:47,940 stuff like that unless you're looking at 2007 01:20:53,689 --> 01:20:51,659 the the the hybrid conspiracy side of it 2008 01:20:56,149 --> 01:20:53,699 um you know there's that theory that 2009 01:20:59,510 --> 01:20:56,159 they they're actually getting women 2010 01:21:02,689 --> 01:20:59,520 pregnant here then taking the babies and 2011 01:21:04,550 --> 01:21:02,699 you know creating hybrid UFO alien 2012 01:21:06,530 --> 01:21:04,560 babies and that kind of stuff and there 2013 01:21:08,870 --> 01:21:06,540 was a theory that they're doing this 2014 01:21:11,030 --> 01:21:08,880 because every now and then the human 2015 01:21:14,870 --> 01:21:11,040 race gets wiped out 2016 01:21:16,550 --> 01:21:14,880 um and if they are our creators which is 2017 01:21:18,350 --> 01:21:16,560 another theory that they could have 2018 01:21:20,750 --> 01:21:18,360 possibly created us 2019 01:21:22,790 --> 01:21:20,760 um you know through the monkeys or 2020 01:21:24,590 --> 01:21:22,800 whoever's here on the earth you know 2021 01:21:26,149 --> 01:21:24,600 before us and they've manipulated it 2022 01:21:27,470 --> 01:21:26,159 with DNA or whatever the case is or 2023 01:21:29,030 --> 01:21:27,480 they've created us from scratch or 2024 01:21:30,590 --> 01:21:29,040 whatever the case is 2025 01:21:31,970 --> 01:21:30,600 um that they would be watching us and 2026 01:21:34,010 --> 01:21:31,980 observing us 2027 01:21:36,770 --> 01:21:34,020 um in the same way that a scientist 2028 01:21:38,990 --> 01:21:36,780 would watch a bacteria form in a Petri 2029 01:21:41,270 --> 01:21:39,000 dish that he's working on you watch from 2030 01:21:43,430 --> 01:21:41,280 a distance you don't jump into the the 2031 01:21:45,410 --> 01:21:43,440 bacteria dish and swim around with them 2032 01:21:46,850 --> 01:21:45,420 and go oh hey guys and blah blah so you 2033 01:21:49,669 --> 01:21:46,860 watch from a distance and I believe 2034 01:21:52,370 --> 01:21:49,679 that's what's happening in in a way I 2035 01:21:54,169 --> 01:21:52,380 think that there we are possibly a 2036 01:21:56,450 --> 01:21:54,179 creation and they're keeping an eye on 2037 01:21:58,430 --> 01:21:56,460 us uh there's that theory that every now 2038 01:22:01,070 --> 01:21:58,440 and then we get wiped out right you know 2039 01:22:03,770 --> 01:22:01,080 every 12 15 20 000 years whatever the 2040 01:22:05,510 --> 01:22:03,780 case is there's some type of Calamity or 2041 01:22:07,850 --> 01:22:05,520 meteorite strike or whatever whatever 2042 01:22:10,790 --> 01:22:07,860 and you know there would be a theory 2043 01:22:12,950 --> 01:22:10,800 that because humans are so violent and 2044 01:22:14,209 --> 01:22:12,960 we've been stuck in this violent way for 2045 01:22:16,310 --> 01:22:14,219 you know tens of thousands of years 2046 01:22:18,649 --> 01:22:16,320 doing the same thing raping stealing 2047 01:22:20,450 --> 01:22:18,659 murdering each other the whole kit if 2048 01:22:21,290 --> 01:22:20,460 they wanted to 2049 01:22:24,830 --> 01:22:21,300 um 2050 01:22:27,110 --> 01:22:24,840 enhance or create a being that was more 2051 01:22:28,850 --> 01:22:27,120 peaceful it would make an understanding 2052 01:22:32,570 --> 01:22:28,860 that what they would create another 2053 01:22:34,430 --> 01:22:32,580 being from us and with more peaceful 2054 01:22:37,370 --> 01:22:34,440 characteristics and then possibly after 2055 01:22:39,229 --> 01:22:37,380 we get wiped out they could then bring 2056 01:22:42,229 --> 01:22:39,239 back this other race that they've been 2057 01:22:44,689 --> 01:22:42,239 keeping in space that were apart us and 2058 01:22:47,149 --> 01:22:44,699 part them and then repopulate the Earth 2059 01:22:49,910 --> 01:22:47,159 again with you know and not be as 2060 01:22:51,890 --> 01:22:49,920 violent not be as you know cannibalistic 2061 01:22:53,510 --> 01:22:51,900 and animalistic as humans have been for 2062 01:22:54,709 --> 01:22:53,520 tens of thousands of years and I mean 2063 01:22:56,209 --> 01:22:54,719 there's a lot of theories who really 2064 01:22:57,229 --> 01:22:56,219 knows the truth but at the end of the 2065 01:22:58,970 --> 01:22:57,239 day 2066 01:23:00,729 --> 01:22:58,980 um he said we just got to keep an eye 2067 01:23:02,930 --> 01:23:00,739 out and and 2068 01:23:05,510 --> 01:23:02,940 everything's unraveling 2069 01:23:08,030 --> 01:23:05,520 um and everything's you know gonna come 2070 01:23:10,130 --> 01:23:08,040 to a point eventually where it's going 2071 01:23:12,470 --> 01:23:10,140 to either be too much evidence 2072 01:23:14,630 --> 01:23:12,480 um to not believe it or there's just 2073 01:23:15,950 --> 01:23:14,640 going to be more and more stories and 2074 01:23:18,410 --> 01:23:15,960 there's just going to be Skeptics still 2075 01:23:20,870 --> 01:23:18,420 out there and I'm hoping that we're past 2076 01:23:21,649 --> 01:23:20,880 that and I'm hoping that we can actually 2077 01:23:24,290 --> 01:23:21,659 um 2078 01:23:26,390 --> 01:23:24,300 get this out there and teach this real 2079 01:23:27,890 --> 01:23:26,400 and that we're not alone and I think for 2080 01:23:29,810 --> 01:23:27,900 years religions and all this kind of 2081 01:23:32,750 --> 01:23:29,820 stuff has been part of the reason why we 2082 01:23:35,330 --> 01:23:32,760 haven't you know um gone hey everyone 2083 01:23:37,550 --> 01:23:35,340 we're with like God says we're the 2084 01:23:40,070 --> 01:23:37,560 ultimate creation and all this kind of 2085 01:23:41,930 --> 01:23:40,080 stuff and but if we're the ultimate 2086 01:23:44,090 --> 01:23:41,940 creation then what are these things you 2087 01:23:46,310 --> 01:23:44,100 know are they the gods are they creators 2088 01:23:48,590 --> 01:23:46,320 are they what's going on so 2089 01:23:50,510 --> 01:23:48,600 it's a lot of um now what I have noticed 2090 01:23:52,850 --> 01:23:50,520 as well a lot of people who do see UFOs 2091 01:23:54,830 --> 01:23:52,860 depending on their background 2092 01:23:56,930 --> 01:23:54,840 um so they see a number of UFOs they 2093 01:23:59,030 --> 01:23:56,940 tend to blame especially if they have 2094 01:24:00,890 --> 01:23:59,040 religious background they'll go they'll 2095 01:24:03,830 --> 01:24:00,900 this will be about Jesus it'll be about 2096 01:24:06,770 --> 01:24:03,840 you know like um Antonio usury over in 2097 01:24:09,050 --> 01:24:06,780 Italy um and he sees UFOs going back to 2098 01:24:10,790 --> 01:24:09,060 when he was a child as well 2099 01:24:13,250 --> 01:24:10,800 um you know a lot of the stuff because 2100 01:24:16,010 --> 01:24:13,260 he uh looks at it with a religious 2101 01:24:17,149 --> 01:24:16,020 filter a religious glasses on like say 2102 01:24:17,990 --> 01:24:17,159 uh 2103 01:24:19,970 --> 01:24:18,000 um 2104 01:24:22,970 --> 01:24:19,980 a lot of the stuff that he's capturing 2105 01:24:25,490 --> 01:24:22,980 lately are things like crosses in the 2106 01:24:28,130 --> 01:24:25,500 sky rosary beads and stuff like that now 2107 01:24:29,689 --> 01:24:28,140 it whether this is the phenomenon 2108 01:24:32,209 --> 01:24:29,699 adapting 2109 01:24:34,149 --> 01:24:32,219 um to this man or a connection with the 2110 01:24:36,290 --> 01:24:34,159 man and and he's doing this somehow 2111 01:24:38,149 --> 01:24:36,300 through his mind 2112 01:24:40,010 --> 01:24:38,159 um there's so many different questions 2113 01:24:42,470 --> 01:24:40,020 and so many different roads to go down 2114 01:24:44,810 --> 01:24:42,480 with this and you know most of them just 2115 01:24:47,350 --> 01:24:44,820 seem like dead ends unfortunately until 2116 01:24:50,090 --> 01:24:47,360 we can actually 2117 01:24:52,550 --> 01:24:50,100 get the phenomenon itself 2118 01:24:54,410 --> 01:24:52,560 um test it properly share it with the 2119 01:24:56,689 --> 01:24:54,420 world you know we're still going to be 2120 01:24:58,550 --> 01:24:56,699 just talking about it and you know it's 2121 01:25:00,830 --> 01:24:58,560 not going to really go anywhere as far 2122 01:25:02,750 --> 01:25:00,840 as I'm concerned but all I know is that 2123 01:25:04,189 --> 01:25:02,760 nowadays more eyes are on this 2124 01:25:06,770 --> 01:25:04,199 phenomenon than probably ever before 2125 01:25:10,370 --> 01:25:06,780 which is really good yeah yeah it's it's 2126 01:25:11,689 --> 01:25:10,380 a good time to be in our business uh for 2127 01:25:13,669 --> 01:25:11,699 sure 2128 01:25:15,590 --> 01:25:13,679 um and but there's a couple of ways to 2129 01:25:20,810 --> 01:25:15,600 look at it 2130 01:25:23,450 --> 01:25:20,820 um no matter what you do no matter what 2131 01:25:25,430 --> 01:25:23,460 kind of advances we have in science no 2132 01:25:29,030 --> 01:25:25,440 matter what kind of photographic or 2133 01:25:33,290 --> 01:25:29,040 video proof you have you are still going 2134 01:25:36,169 --> 01:25:33,300 to have some idiots out there and right 2135 01:25:40,149 --> 01:25:36,179 now right now there are people that 2136 01:25:44,709 --> 01:25:40,159 think that the Earth is flat right now 2137 01:25:49,010 --> 01:25:44,719 everything we went through right with um 2138 01:25:53,750 --> 01:25:49,020 Copernicus and Galileo and and and and 2139 01:25:55,910 --> 01:25:53,760 the the greatness of you know their work 2140 01:25:56,649 --> 01:25:55,920 and and what has been presented and 2141 01:25:59,870 --> 01:25:56,659 everything 2142 01:26:04,250 --> 01:25:59,880 satellites and GPS and and photographs 2143 01:26:06,169 --> 01:26:04,260 of you know all the planets in our solar 2144 01:26:07,250 --> 01:26:06,179 system and beyond it everything that we 2145 01:26:12,590 --> 01:26:07,260 every 2146 01:26:17,470 --> 01:26:15,050 you know and it's good to be the same 2147 01:26:21,189 --> 01:26:17,480 thing I think with with E.T 2148 01:26:26,209 --> 01:26:21,199 you're going to stay inside of your lane 2149 01:26:29,629 --> 01:26:26,219 and the more that you try to convince 2150 01:26:31,550 --> 01:26:29,639 somebody of something the stronger their 2151 01:26:34,129 --> 01:26:31,560 belief system gets 2152 01:26:38,510 --> 01:26:34,139 it doesn't yeah you know what I mean I 2153 01:26:41,030 --> 01:26:38,520 I'm uh I'm a very unique individual in 2154 01:26:43,729 --> 01:26:41,040 that I have an open mind I change my 2155 01:26:49,430 --> 01:26:43,739 mind all the time I change my mind on 2156 01:26:56,390 --> 01:26:52,669 even fairies I do and I'm a pretty why 2157 01:26:59,270 --> 01:26:56,400 not I'm a pretty hard ass dude all right 2158 01:27:02,590 --> 01:26:59,280 I'll punch somebody in the throat I I I 2159 01:27:04,850 --> 01:27:02,600 don't give a crap 2160 01:27:08,030 --> 01:27:04,860 I'm lucky I'm all the way over here then 2161 01:27:13,250 --> 01:27:11,450 that's what I mean I haven't opened mind 2162 01:27:16,910 --> 01:27:13,260 and 2163 01:27:20,350 --> 01:27:16,920 open mind is how we advance 2164 01:27:24,470 --> 01:27:20,360 if Galileo didn't have an open mind 2165 01:27:26,770 --> 01:27:24,480 you know what I mean the sun would be uh 2166 01:27:30,470 --> 01:27:26,780 orbiting the Earth still 2167 01:27:31,970 --> 01:27:30,480 absolutely yeah yeah you're right there 2168 01:27:33,649 --> 01:27:31,980 seems to be certain individuals that 2169 01:27:35,689 --> 01:27:33,659 come throughout history look at Tesla 2170 01:27:38,030 --> 01:27:35,699 and Edison and all these guys they 2171 01:27:39,950 --> 01:27:38,040 change everything whereas most people 2172 01:27:42,709 --> 01:27:39,960 just go through life living their life 2173 01:27:44,390 --> 01:27:42,719 doing day-to-day things and you know we 2174 01:27:46,430 --> 01:27:44,400 wouldn't be anywhere 2175 01:27:50,090 --> 01:27:46,440 um without people like this doing this 2176 01:27:51,590 --> 01:27:50,100 stuff for us and people with open minds 2177 01:27:53,629 --> 01:27:51,600 um there's too many people with closed 2178 01:27:55,370 --> 01:27:53,639 minds unfortunately and going back to 2179 01:27:57,470 --> 01:27:55,380 the Skeptics again you know if they only 2180 01:27:59,330 --> 01:27:57,480 just had an open mind to this thing not 2181 01:28:01,490 --> 01:27:59,340 so open that your brains fall out your 2182 01:28:04,729 --> 01:28:01,500 ears but you know open enough to 2183 01:28:07,129 --> 01:28:04,739 actually take in new information add it 2184 01:28:10,070 --> 01:28:07,139 to what you previously know and then 2185 01:28:13,729 --> 01:28:10,080 logically work out an answer or you know 2186 01:28:15,470 --> 01:28:13,739 try and come to a point you know at the 2187 01:28:16,490 --> 01:28:15,480 end of the day but you know a lot of 2188 01:28:17,930 --> 01:28:16,500 people don't do that a lot of people 2189 01:28:21,050 --> 01:28:17,940 don't have the critical faculties 2190 01:28:23,390 --> 01:28:21,060 unfortunately or or and also there's the 2191 01:28:24,890 --> 01:28:23,400 whole you know the stigma attached to it 2192 01:28:26,990 --> 01:28:24,900 to you know a lot of people just don't 2193 01:28:29,030 --> 01:28:27,000 want to talk about it and in case 2194 01:28:31,310 --> 01:28:29,040 they're seen as crazy and stuff like 2195 01:28:33,830 --> 01:28:31,320 that and I understand that that's fair 2196 01:28:35,930 --> 01:28:33,840 enough but you know you like you said 2197 01:28:38,090 --> 01:28:35,940 you gotta stick with it you've got to 2198 01:28:39,649 --> 01:28:38,100 stick with what you believe in you can't 2199 01:28:42,530 --> 01:28:39,659 just give up because you give up and 2200 01:28:44,510 --> 01:28:42,540 then you know people just walk all over 2201 01:28:46,250 --> 01:28:44,520 you that's your whole thing gone you you 2202 01:28:48,110 --> 01:28:46,260 gotta yeah you've got to continue doing 2203 01:28:50,149 --> 01:28:48,120 what you're doing and you know people 2204 01:28:52,189 --> 01:28:50,159 speaking this truth have got to keep 2205 01:28:53,390 --> 01:28:52,199 speaking this truth because that's the 2206 01:28:54,830 --> 01:28:53,400 only way it's going to get through to 2207 01:28:57,410 --> 01:28:54,840 people 2208 01:28:58,970 --> 01:28:57,420 um you know as if um they're constantly 2209 01:29:01,850 --> 01:28:58,980 hammered with stuff because people move 2210 01:29:03,770 --> 01:29:01,860 on really quick with things you know and 2211 01:29:05,870 --> 01:29:03,780 um you know the next thing and the next 2212 01:29:08,930 --> 01:29:05,880 thing and you know living life and all 2213 01:29:10,490 --> 01:29:08,940 that kind of stuff and yeah I I just if 2214 01:29:12,950 --> 01:29:10,500 people really knew what was going on 2215 01:29:15,530 --> 01:29:12,960 above their heads and all around us I 2216 01:29:16,970 --> 01:29:15,540 think that yeah just incredible the 2217 01:29:19,370 --> 01:29:16,980 world would be a completely different 2218 01:29:20,810 --> 01:29:19,380 place and I'd say there might even be 2219 01:29:23,209 --> 01:29:20,820 people would be like I'm too scared to 2220 01:29:24,830 --> 01:29:23,219 go Outdoors if they know the truth 2221 01:29:26,990 --> 01:29:24,840 um with all these things around us that 2222 01:29:28,970 --> 01:29:27,000 you can't see and who knows how it would 2223 01:29:30,649 --> 01:29:28,980 affect some people you know 2224 01:29:31,490 --> 01:29:30,659 um whether you've got an open mind or 2225 01:29:33,290 --> 01:29:31,500 not 2226 01:29:35,629 --> 01:29:33,300 right there 2227 01:29:37,550 --> 01:29:35,639 Damien seriously that's a really really 2228 01:29:40,790 --> 01:29:37,560 good point 2229 01:29:43,490 --> 01:29:40,800 um I I gotta tell you I'm not 2230 01:29:46,669 --> 01:29:43,500 I'm not really that scared of things I 2231 01:29:48,050 --> 01:29:46,679 can see right I'm not I'm not scared of 2232 01:29:52,189 --> 01:29:48,060 a gun 2233 01:29:55,209 --> 01:29:52,199 scares the crap out of me a freaking 2234 01:29:59,689 --> 01:29:55,219 ghost right yeah 2235 01:30:03,890 --> 01:29:59,699 you know it's it's the Unseen and 2236 01:30:07,250 --> 01:30:03,900 absolutely if we turn around and we 2237 01:30:09,470 --> 01:30:07,260 start to say well yeah E.T yeah okay yes 2238 01:30:13,310 --> 01:30:09,480 yes and they're here 2239 01:30:16,390 --> 01:30:13,320 and some of them you can't see and 2240 01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:22,310 uh oh 2241 01:30:27,910 --> 01:30:24,169 with um 2242 01:30:32,390 --> 01:30:27,920 The Empire Strikes Back right some crazy 2243 01:30:35,270 --> 01:30:32,400 Imperial Death Star Cruiser just rolling 2244 01:30:37,990 --> 01:30:35,280 into Sydney well you know what okay 2245 01:30:41,870 --> 01:30:38,000 let's figure out how to I like that 2246 01:30:44,930 --> 01:30:41,880 right right make that thing 2247 01:30:48,709 --> 01:30:44,940 um I'm seeing it 2248 01:30:52,430 --> 01:30:48,719 make it invisible now we got a problem 2249 01:30:54,950 --> 01:30:52,440 now yeah yeah you're worried about that 2250 01:30:57,290 --> 01:30:54,960 um it's always the unknown it's the 2251 01:30:58,370 --> 01:30:57,300 unknown isn't it that that freaks people 2252 01:31:01,250 --> 01:30:58,380 out 2253 01:31:02,990 --> 01:31:01,260 um the the whole it's like with um with 2254 01:31:04,669 --> 01:31:03,000 serial killers a lot of people have a 2255 01:31:06,709 --> 01:31:04,679 Fascination towards serial killers 2256 01:31:09,169 --> 01:31:06,719 because people try and understand what's 2257 01:31:11,149 --> 01:31:09,179 unknown why do they do this 2258 01:31:13,430 --> 01:31:11,159 um how did they do this it's freaky it's 2259 01:31:15,290 --> 01:31:13,440 scary you know but people just want to 2260 01:31:17,510 --> 01:31:15,300 understand and a lot of people yeah 2261 01:31:20,209 --> 01:31:17,520 follow the topic um and the human mind 2262 01:31:21,950 --> 01:31:20,219 because of that this is similar it's a 2263 01:31:24,649 --> 01:31:21,960 similar kind of topic because it's out 2264 01:31:26,209 --> 01:31:24,659 there it's extraordinary it's got to do 2265 01:31:28,310 --> 01:31:26,219 with the human mind 2266 01:31:31,010 --> 01:31:28,320 um it's got to do with our place here on 2267 01:31:32,030 --> 01:31:31,020 Earth why we do things 2268 01:31:33,709 --> 01:31:32,040 um 2269 01:31:36,229 --> 01:31:33,719 you know is what these things have done 2270 01:31:38,870 --> 01:31:36,239 how how they've affected our society 2271 01:31:42,050 --> 01:31:38,880 over over thousands of years quite 2272 01:31:44,990 --> 01:31:42,060 possibly affected um you were mentioning 2273 01:31:46,729 --> 01:31:45,000 that you believe in uh elves and you 2274 01:31:49,650 --> 01:31:46,739 know that kind of stuff 2275 01:31:56,209 --> 01:31:52,209 [Laughter] 2276 01:31:59,629 --> 01:31:56,219 fairies right so with valet's idea on 2277 01:32:03,169 --> 01:31:59,639 fairies like he he believed that um it 2278 01:32:05,750 --> 01:32:03,179 was a a whole a phenomenon related to 2279 01:32:08,810 --> 01:32:05,760 the UFO phenomenon because fairies and 2280 01:32:10,850 --> 01:32:08,820 other things uh people used to see and 2281 01:32:12,709 --> 01:32:10,860 now we're seeing and they have similar 2282 01:32:14,990 --> 01:32:12,719 characteristics like they would abduct 2283 01:32:17,570 --> 01:32:15,000 people they would take people you know 2284 01:32:19,669 --> 01:32:17,580 stuff like this and and then it's the 2285 01:32:22,250 --> 01:32:19,679 same thing with the UFO phenomenon these 2286 01:32:24,350 --> 01:32:22,260 creatures or these beings would take 2287 01:32:26,570 --> 01:32:24,360 people and do things and it's a lot of 2288 01:32:28,490 --> 01:32:26,580 very similar little lines that you know 2289 01:32:30,890 --> 01:32:28,500 you go oh wow okay that could be 2290 01:32:33,890 --> 01:32:30,900 something or you know who really knows 2291 01:32:37,250 --> 01:32:33,900 but I think the phenomenon has appeared 2292 01:32:39,470 --> 01:32:37,260 to us in a certain way over the years 2293 01:32:42,050 --> 01:32:39,480 and it's changed its appearance and 2294 01:32:44,810 --> 01:32:42,060 valet believes it as well that it sort 2295 01:32:48,350 --> 01:32:44,820 of it shows itself to us in a way that's 2296 01:32:51,229 --> 01:32:48,360 just ahead of our own technology so back 2297 01:32:53,030 --> 01:32:51,239 in the you know 1890s and whatnot before 2298 01:32:55,430 --> 01:32:53,040 the blimpse started flying around people 2299 01:32:57,590 --> 01:32:55,440 were seeing these strange airships and 2300 01:33:00,229 --> 01:32:57,600 they were doing bizarre things in the 2301 01:33:01,790 --> 01:33:00,239 sky and you know um and then all of a 2302 01:33:04,010 --> 01:33:01,800 sudden then we've got different things 2303 01:33:06,290 --> 01:33:04,020 we've got flying sources metallic craft 2304 01:33:08,330 --> 01:33:06,300 and we've got cigar shaped craft and all 2305 01:33:10,490 --> 01:33:08,340 this stuff but there's a core element 2306 01:33:12,410 --> 01:33:10,500 that's remained all the way through and 2307 01:33:14,810 --> 01:33:12,420 we're talking with the book uh wonders 2308 01:33:17,750 --> 01:33:14,820 of the sky and Jacques filet going back 2309 01:33:19,850 --> 01:33:17,760 thousands of years is the core 2310 01:33:22,250 --> 01:33:19,860 phenomenon which is the balls of light 2311 01:33:23,930 --> 01:33:22,260 these have been seen and the cigars 2312 01:33:26,810 --> 01:33:23,940 they've been seen for thousands of years 2313 01:33:28,250 --> 01:33:26,820 and spoken about so I think whatever 2314 01:33:29,870 --> 01:33:28,260 else has come 2315 01:33:31,729 --> 01:33:29,880 um it could be a different phenomenon 2316 01:33:33,530 --> 01:33:31,739 there could be interplanetary visitors 2317 01:33:36,350 --> 01:33:33,540 come and they're the ones that are in 2318 01:33:38,570 --> 01:33:36,360 the flying sources whereas the other 2319 01:33:39,649 --> 01:33:38,580 phenomenon are the balls of light and 2320 01:33:42,649 --> 01:33:39,659 the cigars and all this kind of stuff 2321 01:33:44,330 --> 01:33:42,659 that could be possibly more of a an 2322 01:33:47,209 --> 01:33:44,340 earth thing maybe they're inside the 2323 01:33:49,910 --> 01:33:47,219 earth maybe it's a natural unrecognized 2324 01:33:52,610 --> 01:33:49,920 unknown light like the mystery lights 2325 01:33:54,890 --> 01:33:52,620 are unknown and unrecognized but 2326 01:33:56,270 --> 01:33:54,900 um for what they are but who really 2327 01:33:59,149 --> 01:33:56,280 knows what they are at the end of the 2328 01:34:01,850 --> 01:33:59,159 day all I know is that there's a lot of 2329 01:34:04,310 --> 01:34:01,860 similarities between ghost phenomenon 2330 01:34:06,729 --> 01:34:04,320 and UFO phenomenon which is really 2331 01:34:09,110 --> 01:34:06,739 strange too yeah 100 2332 01:34:10,910 --> 01:34:09,120 I'll be speaking about that in haunted 2333 01:34:12,350 --> 01:34:10,920 Skies coming up as well that's what the 2334 01:34:14,950 --> 01:34:12,360 documentary's about is the connection 2335 01:34:18,050 --> 01:34:14,960 between I've come up with about 22 23 2336 01:34:19,370 --> 01:34:18,060 pretty solid connections between the 2337 01:34:22,550 --> 01:34:19,380 phenomenon which is really really 2338 01:34:24,470 --> 01:34:22,560 strange and there's a lot of an analogy 2339 01:34:26,629 --> 01:34:24,480 I like to use as if you're a Ghost 2340 01:34:28,129 --> 01:34:26,639 Hunter and you see a ball of light in 2341 01:34:30,290 --> 01:34:28,139 your home you're more than likely to 2342 01:34:32,450 --> 01:34:30,300 call it a ghost if you're a farmer and 2343 01:34:34,070 --> 01:34:32,460 you see a ball of light on your farm or 2344 01:34:36,470 --> 01:34:34,080 above your farm you're going to call it 2345 01:34:39,350 --> 01:34:36,480 a Min light or a mystery light and if 2346 01:34:40,970 --> 01:34:39,360 you're a ufologist or a UFO Hunter and 2347 01:34:42,350 --> 01:34:40,980 you see the same ball of light in the 2348 01:34:44,990 --> 01:34:42,360 sky are you going to call it a UFO 2349 01:34:47,330 --> 01:34:45,000 there's a good chance and a good 2350 01:34:49,310 --> 01:34:47,340 possibility that these things are all 2351 01:34:51,169 --> 01:34:49,320 connected in this because they're giving 2352 01:34:53,390 --> 01:34:51,179 off the same kind of thing they're 2353 01:34:55,010 --> 01:34:53,400 attracted to people they both affect the 2354 01:34:57,310 --> 01:34:55,020 Earth's magnetic field when they appear 2355 01:35:00,229 --> 01:34:57,320 and disappear at will they appear in 2356 01:35:02,450 --> 01:35:00,239 sometimes in the same way orbs of light 2357 01:35:05,689 --> 01:35:02,460 doing bizarre things floating through 2358 01:35:07,310 --> 01:35:05,699 walls and that there's so many strange 2359 01:35:09,470 --> 01:35:07,320 little connections and they seem to 2360 01:35:12,950 --> 01:35:09,480 follow people as well they're strange 2361 01:35:14,149 --> 01:35:12,960 smells associated with them uh there's a 2362 01:35:15,350 --> 01:35:14,159 whole bunch of different things even 2363 01:35:18,770 --> 01:35:15,360 little things 2364 01:35:21,169 --> 01:35:18,780 um you know so there's some strange 2365 01:35:25,189 --> 01:35:21,179 things out there and possibilities but 2366 01:35:26,530 --> 01:35:25,199 the reason at let me jump in let me jump 2367 01:35:29,450 --> 01:35:26,540 in for a second yeah 2368 01:35:33,890 --> 01:35:29,460 is one of the best examples we have of 2369 01:35:35,689 --> 01:35:33,900 that right and and when acts of the case 2370 01:35:38,810 --> 01:35:35,699 of Fatima 2371 01:35:41,709 --> 01:35:38,820 uh tell us a UFO 2372 01:35:45,709 --> 01:35:41,719 that was a UFO they encountered 2373 01:35:48,110 --> 01:35:45,719 absolutely human being now the kids are 2374 01:35:50,470 --> 01:35:48,120 religious you know they have religious 2375 01:35:55,310 --> 01:35:50,480 upbringing and suddenly it's mother Mary 2376 01:35:57,729 --> 01:35:55,320 and it's listen to the descriptions of 2377 01:36:01,669 --> 01:35:57,739 what was going on in the sky 2378 01:36:04,850 --> 01:36:01,679 and uh you know tens of thousands of 2379 01:36:08,149 --> 01:36:04,860 people were watching this and I I'm 2380 01:36:13,810 --> 01:36:08,159 telling you right now it was a freaking 2381 01:36:20,209 --> 01:36:18,229 yeah yeah and you know and straight to 2382 01:36:22,629 --> 01:36:20,219 the convent you know and everybody 2383 01:36:27,350 --> 01:36:22,639 becomes nuns and 2384 01:36:30,250 --> 01:36:27,360 and they make it uh now what is wrong if 2385 01:36:34,490 --> 01:36:30,260 if you take the Fatima story 2386 01:36:38,689 --> 01:36:34,500 just take it and just flip it over and 2387 01:36:41,689 --> 01:36:38,699 and and interchange a few words and 2388 01:36:43,850 --> 01:36:41,699 marry this figure right that they went 2389 01:36:46,910 --> 01:36:43,860 out and met in the weeds 2390 01:36:50,510 --> 01:36:46,920 make her a time traveler 2391 01:36:52,430 --> 01:36:50,520 right from the future right yeah you 2392 01:36:55,129 --> 01:36:52,440 don't have to be the mother or wife of 2393 01:36:56,870 --> 01:36:55,139 the baby Jesus or whatever it doesn't 2394 01:37:00,970 --> 01:36:56,880 have to be any of that 2395 01:37:04,970 --> 01:37:00,980 yeah something else all together 2396 01:37:07,970 --> 01:37:04,980 and but it it's going to be inside of 2397 01:37:10,370 --> 01:37:07,980 your belief system I I totally agree uh 2398 01:37:12,470 --> 01:37:10,380 with you but here's the thing 2399 01:37:14,930 --> 01:37:12,480 um and I can't wait for haunted Skies to 2400 01:37:20,330 --> 01:37:16,850 it says today 2401 01:37:22,490 --> 01:37:20,340 if they want to talk to us about the 2402 01:37:25,850 --> 01:37:22,500 Multiverse 2403 01:37:28,850 --> 01:37:25,860 um about parallel worlds about 11 2404 01:37:31,370 --> 01:37:28,860 Dimensions uh talk to us about String 2405 01:37:33,430 --> 01:37:31,380 Theory or entanglement 2406 01:37:37,450 --> 01:37:33,440 dark matter 2407 01:37:40,070 --> 01:37:37,460 and dark energy yeah 2408 01:37:41,990 --> 01:37:40,080 are they talking about ghosts are they 2409 01:37:44,209 --> 01:37:42,000 talking about the Paranormal they don't 2410 01:37:46,370 --> 01:37:44,219 want to admit it they don't want to 2411 01:37:48,830 --> 01:37:46,380 admit to Consciousness they don't want 2412 01:37:50,350 --> 01:37:48,840 to admit to this or but it certainly 2413 01:37:52,910 --> 01:37:50,360 sounds like they're talking about 2414 01:37:55,870 --> 01:37:52,920 inter-dimensional time travelers to me 2415 01:38:02,030 --> 01:37:58,970 absolutely absolutely now you hit the 2416 01:38:04,070 --> 01:38:02,040 nail on the head there um and a lot of 2417 01:38:05,149 --> 01:38:04,080 what I'm going into in haunted Skies as 2418 01:38:07,610 --> 01:38:05,159 well 2419 01:38:09,890 --> 01:38:07,620 um I I believe that they are coming from 2420 01:38:12,590 --> 01:38:09,900 the same place a different phenomenon 2421 01:38:14,629 --> 01:38:12,600 especially the core phenomenon um not so 2422 01:38:17,209 --> 01:38:14,639 much the Flying Saucer phenomenon but 2423 01:38:19,910 --> 01:38:17,219 the core ball of light phenomenon the 2424 01:38:22,970 --> 01:38:19,920 Poltergeist the ghost phenomenon because 2425 01:38:25,090 --> 01:38:22,980 whenever they cross over into 2426 01:38:27,290 --> 01:38:25,100 our 2427 01:38:29,750 --> 01:38:27,300 Universal Multiverse whatever the case 2428 01:38:31,850 --> 01:38:29,760 is they they leave the same signatures 2429 01:38:33,950 --> 01:38:31,860 and they cross over in the same way and 2430 01:38:36,830 --> 01:38:33,960 they disappear and go back in the same 2431 01:38:39,649 --> 01:38:36,840 way into the same area leaving virtually 2432 01:38:41,750 --> 01:38:39,659 exactly the same signature 2433 01:38:43,970 --> 01:38:41,760 um and intensity uh breaking the 2434 01:38:46,490 --> 01:38:43,980 magnetic field in exactly the same way 2435 01:38:49,129 --> 01:38:46,500 and 2436 01:38:51,229 --> 01:38:49,139 it's just yeah there's definitely a 2437 01:38:52,910 --> 01:38:51,239 connection there and I one of my 2438 01:38:55,430 --> 01:38:52,920 theories that I'll be touching on in 2439 01:38:56,930 --> 01:38:55,440 haunted Skies is that I believe that 2440 01:38:58,430 --> 01:38:56,940 where they're coming from and what 2441 01:39:01,610 --> 01:38:58,440 scientists know as dark matter which 2442 01:39:03,590 --> 01:39:01,620 what makes up 90 of the universe unseen 2443 01:39:05,270 --> 01:39:03,600 we don't know what it is it's heavy you 2444 01:39:07,010 --> 01:39:05,280 know we can weigh it measure it 2445 01:39:10,729 --> 01:39:07,020 mathematically or whatnot we just can't 2446 01:39:13,310 --> 01:39:10,739 see it but I believe that the phenomenon 2447 01:39:16,189 --> 01:39:13,320 is coming from there and then Crossing 2448 01:39:17,629 --> 01:39:16,199 back over into the dark matter which is 2449 01:39:18,830 --> 01:39:17,639 what we can't see 2450 01:39:19,970 --> 01:39:18,840 um and that's where I believe they're 2451 01:39:21,830 --> 01:39:19,980 coming from they're not coming from 2452 01:39:24,770 --> 01:39:21,840 distant planets they're coming from 2453 01:39:26,870 --> 01:39:24,780 right next to us right around us at the 2454 01:39:29,629 --> 01:39:26,880 same time and crossing over and then 2455 01:39:31,850 --> 01:39:29,639 going back there whenever they want to 2456 01:39:34,490 --> 01:39:31,860 um you know and I just find it strange 2457 01:39:37,250 --> 01:39:34,500 too that they'd come here from wherever 2458 01:39:39,890 --> 01:39:37,260 and then crash their craft that that 2459 01:39:41,570 --> 01:39:39,900 always kind of rang strange for me I 2460 01:39:43,910 --> 01:39:41,580 don't have problems with that 2461 01:39:46,070 --> 01:39:43,920 you know why I don't know 2462 01:39:47,750 --> 01:39:46,080 because we're humans we crashed stuff 2463 01:39:49,070 --> 01:39:47,760 all the time so yeah I wouldn't surprise 2464 01:39:53,810 --> 01:39:49,080 you 2465 01:40:01,610 --> 01:39:56,770 the last two or three trips to the Moon 2466 01:40:04,610 --> 01:40:01,620 ended really badly and and here you know 2467 01:40:05,750 --> 01:40:04,620 we're trying to get to Mars right what 2468 01:40:08,870 --> 01:40:05,760 do we do 2469 01:40:13,129 --> 01:40:08,880 we cover stuff with balloons and just 2470 01:40:17,149 --> 01:40:13,139 bounce it off we crash it intentionally 2471 01:40:20,090 --> 01:40:17,159 and let it bounce uh you know your ball 2472 01:40:22,250 --> 01:40:20,100 because uh we can't figure out that 2473 01:40:24,950 --> 01:40:22,260 atmosphere or how to get through it so 2474 01:40:27,890 --> 01:40:24,960 when somebody makes that argument with 2475 01:40:30,910 --> 01:40:27,900 me well mainly cross the vastness of 2476 01:40:34,850 --> 01:40:30,920 space and then 2477 01:40:37,310 --> 01:40:34,860 they crash well yeah they don't know you 2478 01:40:39,590 --> 01:40:37,320 know they come through here and and 2479 01:40:43,729 --> 01:40:39,600 they're expecting something else you 2480 01:40:46,610 --> 01:40:43,739 know or yeah we're shooting Radars at it 2481 01:40:48,110 --> 01:40:46,620 right well that's yeah that's what I was 2482 01:40:50,209 --> 01:40:48,120 going to say um that was one of the 2483 01:40:51,410 --> 01:40:50,219 theories wasn't it that Radars were 2484 01:40:54,229 --> 01:40:51,420 bringing them down 2485 01:40:56,209 --> 01:40:54,239 um back in the early days why not why 2486 01:40:58,189 --> 01:40:56,219 not and they weren't expecting it now 2487 01:40:59,870 --> 01:40:58,199 they know yeah 2488 01:41:01,310 --> 01:40:59,880 I get around it but 2489 01:41:04,070 --> 01:41:01,320 it caught him by 2490 01:41:06,169 --> 01:41:04,080 right and maybe they've upgraded their 2491 01:41:09,770 --> 01:41:06,179 craft now and so that they won't be any 2492 01:41:11,689 --> 01:41:09,780 more crashes so or like I said we hardly 2493 01:41:13,370 --> 01:41:11,699 ever see these flying sources anymore 2494 01:41:15,290 --> 01:41:13,380 they're they're just I think they make 2495 01:41:16,850 --> 01:41:15,300 up about two to three percent of the 2496 01:41:20,450 --> 01:41:16,860 reports that I've had over the last 2497 01:41:22,910 --> 01:41:20,460 decade from people around the world but 2498 01:41:25,490 --> 01:41:22,920 um what I've noticed which is strange 2499 01:41:26,770 --> 01:41:25,500 your country has the triangles where we 2500 01:41:30,229 --> 01:41:26,780 don't 2501 01:41:33,050 --> 01:41:30,239 uh well no Belgium's had a couple but 2502 01:41:34,189 --> 01:41:33,060 let me say this yeah yeah let me say 2503 01:41:38,930 --> 01:41:34,199 this 2504 01:41:42,229 --> 01:41:38,940 um uh I'm not gonna waste time on the 2505 01:41:44,450 --> 01:41:42,239 show telling the entire story but um I 2506 01:41:45,310 --> 01:41:44,460 was with a group of people middle of the 2507 01:41:48,050 --> 01:41:45,320 day 2508 01:41:50,510 --> 01:41:48,060 and uh which touches upon what you had 2509 01:41:52,250 --> 01:41:50,520 said earlier about not being able to 2510 01:41:55,070 --> 01:41:52,260 photograph you can't get to a camera 2511 01:41:57,350 --> 01:41:55,080 quick enough right okay so I'm outside 2512 01:41:58,910 --> 01:41:57,360 got 30 people around me we're goofing 2513 01:42:01,490 --> 01:41:58,920 around we're having a good time we're 2514 01:42:03,350 --> 01:42:01,500 out in the woods and I got a big set of 2515 01:42:05,930 --> 01:42:03,360 binoculars I'm looking at this mountain 2516 01:42:08,209 --> 01:42:05,940 this mountain is about 14 miles away 2517 01:42:10,729 --> 01:42:08,219 binoculars are on a tripod and I'm 2518 01:42:14,570 --> 01:42:10,739 looking at Birds I'm literally bird 2519 01:42:17,390 --> 01:42:14,580 watching right okay and from behind this 2520 01:42:19,070 --> 01:42:17,400 mountain peak that is way off in the 2521 01:42:23,750 --> 01:42:19,080 distance this 2522 01:42:25,010 --> 01:42:23,760 freaking thing it's about 500 feet tall 2523 01:42:33,350 --> 01:42:25,020 and it's 2524 01:42:37,209 --> 01:42:33,360 round circle 2525 01:42:41,629 --> 01:42:37,219 uh silver and it was like still a silver 2526 01:42:43,250 --> 01:42:41,639 like aluminum it wasn't shiny on the top 2527 01:42:47,090 --> 01:42:43,260 of them but anyway so it's going like 2528 01:42:49,609 --> 01:42:47,100 and it's giant it's huge and it comes 2529 01:42:51,950 --> 01:42:49,619 out from behind the mountain not in 2530 01:42:53,209 --> 01:42:51,960 front of it not from the side and goes 2531 01:42:56,030 --> 01:42:53,219 through it's the middle of the day it's 2532 01:42:59,109 --> 01:42:56,040 a blue sky okay 2533 01:43:02,629 --> 01:42:59,119 I have a heart attack and I stand wow 2534 01:43:05,629 --> 01:43:02,639 wow I cannot believe what I'm seeing and 2535 01:43:07,790 --> 01:43:05,639 it's really slow not a cloud in the sky 2536 01:43:10,189 --> 01:43:07,800 and it's spinning and it's going like 2537 01:43:12,070 --> 01:43:10,199 this and I'm thinking okay we're gonna 2538 01:43:15,649 --> 01:43:12,080 get to see this for a couple of hours 2539 01:43:18,109 --> 01:43:15,659 and I jump up and I'm yelling 2540 01:43:22,570 --> 01:43:18,119 video video video video pictures 2541 01:43:25,490 --> 01:43:22,580 pictures oh I'm losing my mind 2542 01:43:27,850 --> 01:43:25,500 it disappeared 2543 01:43:30,350 --> 01:43:27,860 [Laughter] 2544 01:43:31,370 --> 01:43:30,360 the whole thing only lasted about 10 2545 01:43:33,830 --> 01:43:31,380 seconds 2546 01:43:36,169 --> 01:43:33,840 and oh wow I thought we were going to 2547 01:43:39,770 --> 01:43:36,179 see it you know go across the sky 2548 01:43:43,010 --> 01:43:39,780 forever it was going really slow and 2549 01:43:45,350 --> 01:43:43,020 um and so the video and I could play you 2550 01:43:48,649 --> 01:43:45,360 the video uh one of the videos that I 2551 01:43:49,609 --> 01:43:48,659 have of us yelling and screaming about 2552 01:43:52,430 --> 01:43:49,619 it 2553 01:43:53,629 --> 01:43:52,440 but the person pointing in the right 2554 01:43:58,669 --> 01:43:53,639 direction 2555 01:44:00,950 --> 01:43:58,679 right all right wow where they were so 2556 01:44:03,350 --> 01:44:00,960 but that's not the point you can hear 2557 01:44:05,149 --> 01:44:03,360 everybody describing 2558 01:44:08,030 --> 01:44:05,159 the object 2559 01:44:11,629 --> 01:44:08,040 and then you hear somebody say it 2560 01:44:13,310 --> 01:44:11,639 disappeared it phased out it's gone I 2561 01:44:16,750 --> 01:44:13,320 couldn't believe it I couldn't believe 2562 01:44:20,090 --> 01:44:16,760 it and we we didn't have 15 seconds 2563 01:44:22,250 --> 01:44:20,100 do you believe that that was because you 2564 01:44:25,250 --> 01:44:22,260 said video get the video and that it was 2565 01:44:28,910 --> 01:44:25,260 like they knew do you believe it man I I 2566 01:44:29,990 --> 01:44:28,920 think about that incident every single 2567 01:44:33,290 --> 01:44:30,000 day 2568 01:44:36,790 --> 01:44:33,300 I can imagine yeah I have you know it 2569 01:44:39,290 --> 01:44:36,800 was the Holy Grail of the Holy Grails 2570 01:44:41,149 --> 01:44:39,300 literally the Independence Day thing 2571 01:44:44,209 --> 01:44:41,159 that you're talking about 2572 01:44:47,570 --> 01:44:44,219 yeah that's incredible you see something 2573 01:44:49,189 --> 01:44:47,580 like that it wasn't a flying saucer it 2574 01:44:51,709 --> 01:44:49,199 wasn't there it wasn't zipping around it 2575 01:44:54,590 --> 01:44:51,719 wasn't ray guns it wasn't this it wasn't 2576 01:44:59,930 --> 01:44:54,600 trying it was it was a flying can of 2577 01:45:02,510 --> 01:45:00,830 um 2578 01:45:05,390 --> 01:45:02,520 and and I didn't 2579 01:45:07,129 --> 01:45:05,400 I did phase out everybody else did they 2580 01:45:09,890 --> 01:45:07,139 were you know looking at it and talking 2581 01:45:12,470 --> 01:45:09,900 about it I jumped back on the binoculars 2582 01:45:15,070 --> 01:45:12,480 and I was trying to chase it back down 2583 01:45:19,510 --> 01:45:15,080 when somebody said it phased out 2584 01:45:24,050 --> 01:45:23,149 and in the middle of the sky this is 2585 01:45:27,530 --> 01:45:24,060 gone 2586 01:45:31,430 --> 01:45:27,540 so yeah just like that yeah you know and 2587 01:45:34,430 --> 01:45:31,440 I I sounds about right yeah well and and 2588 01:45:37,310 --> 01:45:34,440 here's I've seen the plasma stuff I've 2589 01:45:40,790 --> 01:45:37,320 seen the the the balls of light I've 2590 01:45:43,550 --> 01:45:40,800 seen so much of that and uh every day I 2591 01:45:46,729 --> 01:45:43,560 live out here in the desert like you 2592 01:45:50,209 --> 01:45:46,739 um and I I see crazy stuff I do I do 2593 01:45:53,870 --> 01:45:50,219 but the daytime physical craft 2594 01:45:55,550 --> 01:45:53,880 before we say you know and I I agree 2595 01:45:57,109 --> 01:45:55,560 with people we don't have the sightings 2596 01:45:58,850 --> 01:45:57,119 that we used to have 2597 01:46:02,090 --> 01:45:58,860 but I did 2598 01:46:05,330 --> 01:46:02,100 and I can't explain it you know and so 2599 01:46:08,209 --> 01:46:05,340 this this is what causes me and you uh 2600 01:46:10,669 --> 01:46:08,219 Damian I'm gonna chase this down I want 2601 01:46:13,850 --> 01:46:10,679 to know what what I I want I want 2602 01:46:15,250 --> 01:46:13,860 answers I I can't explain it I don't 2603 01:46:17,870 --> 01:46:15,260 know what I saw 2604 01:46:20,090 --> 01:46:17,880 you know I'm pretty damn sure it wasn't 2605 01:46:21,950 --> 01:46:20,100 us you're a man you're a man off to my 2606 01:46:25,510 --> 01:46:21,960 own heart that's for sure 2607 01:46:28,370 --> 01:46:25,520 you know you know um I told Nick 2608 01:46:31,550 --> 01:46:28,380 I had Mick West on the show a couple of 2609 01:46:34,609 --> 01:46:31,560 weeks ago all right and uh I gotta say 2610 01:46:36,709 --> 01:46:34,619 uh most people would never say this I 2611 01:46:38,109 --> 01:46:36,719 love Mick West 2612 01:46:40,970 --> 01:46:38,119 um 2613 01:46:42,890 --> 01:46:40,980 he well no I don't think he's great I 2614 01:46:45,290 --> 01:46:42,900 just love the guy no I mean he's far 2615 01:46:47,629 --> 01:46:45,300 from great but but no we need we need 2616 01:46:50,510 --> 01:46:47,639 someone like him is what I mean nobody 2617 01:46:52,550 --> 01:46:50,520 like him that's exactly my point and he 2618 01:46:55,250 --> 01:46:52,560 will stick to his guns 2619 01:46:58,669 --> 01:46:55,260 um yeah so I tell Mick West this story 2620 01:47:03,470 --> 01:46:58,679 right I'm like now would you mean maybe 2621 01:47:06,169 --> 01:47:03,480 maybe it was a kite a what maybe it was 2622 01:47:11,330 --> 01:47:06,179 this maybe it was just this maybe it was 2623 01:47:13,790 --> 01:47:11,340 a dude no it was a 500 foot tall 2624 01:47:16,669 --> 01:47:13,800 spinning beer can 2625 01:47:19,550 --> 01:47:16,679 that's it don't tell me it was anything 2626 01:47:22,729 --> 01:47:19,560 else that I was imagining it or that 2627 01:47:25,910 --> 01:47:22,739 everyone else there was imagining it and 2628 01:47:27,830 --> 01:47:25,920 it disappeared so you know yeah that's 2629 01:47:30,229 --> 01:47:27,840 one of the worst things when someone who 2630 01:47:32,570 --> 01:47:30,239 wasn't there tries to tell you what you 2631 01:47:34,189 --> 01:47:32,580 saw with your own eyes and you know that 2632 01:47:36,709 --> 01:47:34,199 if they were there they would have had 2633 01:47:38,870 --> 01:47:36,719 their mind blown you know but yeah it's 2634 01:47:42,109 --> 01:47:38,880 just trying to convince other people is 2635 01:47:45,050 --> 01:47:42,119 just you know I I gave up on that even 2636 01:47:46,490 --> 01:47:45,060 with um you know or photos and videos 2637 01:47:48,830 --> 01:47:46,500 and stuff like that at the end of the 2638 01:47:50,209 --> 01:47:48,840 day uh it's people have to see it 2639 01:47:52,010 --> 01:47:50,219 themselves like I was saying before to 2640 01:47:53,330 --> 01:47:52,020 believe it and you know at the end of 2641 01:47:55,910 --> 01:47:53,340 the day that that's all you can really 2642 01:47:58,609 --> 01:47:55,920 do people need to see it themselves to 2643 01:48:02,030 --> 01:47:58,619 to believe something's out there anyway 2644 01:48:04,310 --> 01:48:02,040 well see the thing is the Midwest of the 2645 01:48:09,250 --> 01:48:04,320 world you know the Michael shermers 2646 01:48:16,790 --> 01:48:12,890 doesn't have any friends and and Michael 2647 01:48:20,390 --> 01:48:16,800 Shermer nice guy and everything but the 2648 01:48:22,550 --> 01:48:20,400 skeptical world is a very lonely you 2649 01:48:25,310 --> 01:48:22,560 know I'm just gonna say it's a shitty 2650 01:48:28,010 --> 01:48:25,320 existence but here's the thing with that 2651 01:48:32,629 --> 01:48:28,020 all right when 2652 01:48:35,390 --> 01:48:32,639 um when you are doing what you do you're 2653 01:48:37,970 --> 01:48:35,400 doing it for the sport 2654 01:48:40,970 --> 01:48:37,980 I I think Mick West knows that there's 2655 01:48:44,450 --> 01:48:40,980 UFOs visiting this planet but that's not 2656 01:48:47,570 --> 01:48:44,460 what he's about he just wants to argue 2657 01:48:50,450 --> 01:48:47,580 flat earthers right flat earthers really 2658 01:48:53,629 --> 01:48:50,460 they know the Earth is round they just 2659 01:48:56,570 --> 01:48:53,639 want to bait they just want to see how 2660 01:48:58,250 --> 01:48:56,580 far they can take the argument and you 2661 01:49:02,390 --> 01:48:58,260 know it's the same thing with Michael 2662 01:49:05,570 --> 01:49:02,400 Shermer or the skeptical Society or the 2663 01:49:09,970 --> 01:49:05,580 readers of Skeptics magazine is they are 2664 01:49:13,550 --> 01:49:09,980 into it for the sport you know when you 2665 01:49:16,070 --> 01:49:13,560 debate team in high school right okay we 2666 01:49:19,070 --> 01:49:16,080 got the red team over here blue team 2667 01:49:21,229 --> 01:49:19,080 over here you're on the red team today 2668 01:49:25,250 --> 01:49:21,239 you're going to argue that one plus one 2669 01:49:30,290 --> 01:49:25,260 doesn't equal two You Blue Team One Plus 2670 01:49:31,790 --> 01:49:30,300 One does equal to Mark gets set go well 2671 01:49:34,609 --> 01:49:31,800 that's what you do you know what I mean 2672 01:49:36,530 --> 01:49:34,619 and and now you're off into this and you 2673 01:49:40,010 --> 01:49:36,540 want to say and that's what Skeptics are 2674 01:49:42,109 --> 01:49:40,020 they they just yeah that's true good 2675 01:49:44,629 --> 01:49:42,119 analogy yeah 2676 01:49:47,030 --> 01:49:44,639 yeah that's right I I don't hold 2677 01:49:49,270 --> 01:49:47,040 anything against Mick Mick is debunked 2678 01:49:52,490 --> 01:49:49,280 my stuff and he was right 2679 01:49:56,030 --> 01:49:52,500 I think okay he was right he was right 2680 01:50:00,350 --> 01:49:56,040 you know you know what I'm gonna argue 2681 01:50:03,050 --> 01:50:00,360 back and go no man no uh I'm okay with 2682 01:50:07,189 --> 01:50:03,060 that we need people like that to Center 2683 01:50:08,990 --> 01:50:07,199 us so we just don't know deep end I 2684 01:50:10,430 --> 01:50:09,000 don't wanna yeah 2685 01:50:12,830 --> 01:50:10,440 um I wanted to ask you now that I've 2686 01:50:15,590 --> 01:50:12,840 just I'm gonna get get off my uh 2687 01:50:18,950 --> 01:50:15,600 platform here for a second have you had 2688 01:50:22,370 --> 01:50:21,530 uh with these things no they don't talk 2689 01:50:24,649 --> 01:50:22,380 to me 2690 01:50:25,790 --> 01:50:24,659 I've had they communicate with me in a 2691 01:50:29,050 --> 01:50:25,800 different way 2692 01:50:32,030 --> 01:50:29,060 um how so just by 2693 01:50:33,109 --> 01:50:32,040 well I mentioned before I used to feel 2694 01:50:35,870 --> 01:50:33,119 them 2695 01:50:37,310 --> 01:50:35,880 um I used to feel an intense anxiety and 2696 01:50:39,350 --> 01:50:37,320 I do still do every now and then when 2697 01:50:42,410 --> 01:50:39,360 they're around um but it's not as 2698 01:50:44,270 --> 01:50:42,420 intense as what it used to be but um I 2699 01:50:46,370 --> 01:50:44,280 used to feel that they would connect 2700 01:50:48,530 --> 01:50:46,380 with me in that way um and I'd go out 2701 01:50:49,970 --> 01:50:48,540 they'd appear and then do something and 2702 01:50:51,649 --> 01:50:49,980 it'll leave me like with a warm feeling 2703 01:50:54,470 --> 01:50:51,659 inside but oh hey guys you're still 2704 01:50:57,350 --> 01:50:54,480 around and whatever and go inside 2705 01:50:59,810 --> 01:50:57,360 um but I don't hear voices I don't hear 2706 01:51:02,090 --> 01:50:59,820 words in my head saying hey Damien 2707 01:51:03,649 --> 01:51:02,100 you're a starseed you're this you're 2708 01:51:06,169 --> 01:51:03,659 that and we're here to do this they 2709 01:51:08,270 --> 01:51:06,179 don't talk to me like that so my 2710 01:51:10,370 --> 01:51:08,280 communication is more of a non-verbal 2711 01:51:13,189 --> 01:51:10,380 communication with them I can feel them 2712 01:51:16,729 --> 01:51:13,199 and I feel that they know where I am 2713 01:51:19,010 --> 01:51:16,739 um well I mean dunny do but I feel like 2714 01:51:21,410 --> 01:51:19,020 they know where I am wherever I am 2715 01:51:23,570 --> 01:51:21,420 wherever I'm in town or not um and you 2716 01:51:26,330 --> 01:51:23,580 know like I said they they show up they 2717 01:51:28,970 --> 01:51:26,340 follow us to talks uh makes partner Mel 2718 01:51:30,830 --> 01:51:28,980 and I you know she seems so many of them 2719 01:51:33,070 --> 01:51:30,840 follow us to presentations to 2720 01:51:36,410 --> 01:51:33,080 conferences here in Australia 2721 01:51:38,570 --> 01:51:36,420 while filming documentaries it's like I 2722 01:51:40,310 --> 01:51:38,580 have this communication with them this 2723 01:51:43,070 --> 01:51:40,320 connection but I don't know what it is 2724 01:51:45,770 --> 01:51:43,080 apart from just seeing them and 2725 01:51:48,590 --> 01:51:45,780 experiencing have them show up whenever 2726 01:51:50,510 --> 01:51:48,600 they do and a lot of times it feels like 2727 01:51:52,669 --> 01:51:50,520 they've been helping me and that's why I 2728 01:51:54,890 --> 01:51:52,679 was thrown back big time you know three 2729 01:51:56,870 --> 01:51:54,900 years ago when I had that incident where 2730 01:51:58,970 --> 01:51:56,880 I found out that I was really sick and 2731 01:52:00,590 --> 01:51:58,980 my bones were like an old woman's and 2732 01:52:03,649 --> 01:52:00,600 all that kind of stuff and I had 2733 01:52:04,850 --> 01:52:03,659 radiation stuff and burns um it kind of 2734 01:52:06,890 --> 01:52:04,860 threw me 2735 01:52:09,649 --> 01:52:06,900 um you know and I actually stopped 2736 01:52:11,750 --> 01:52:09,659 ufology I stopped I got out of it for 2737 01:52:15,050 --> 01:52:11,760 about six to nine months I believe 2738 01:52:17,570 --> 01:52:15,060 because uh it's it you know all of a 2739 01:52:20,149 --> 01:52:17,580 sudden something that I thought was 2740 01:52:22,669 --> 01:52:20,159 helping me to get information or 2741 01:52:24,350 --> 01:52:22,679 evidence is now not helping me it's I've 2742 01:52:26,330 --> 01:52:24,360 just found out that it's actually I've 2743 01:52:27,830 --> 01:52:26,340 got a death sentence from this thing and 2744 01:52:31,490 --> 01:52:27,840 it's killed my dog 2745 01:52:34,129 --> 01:52:31,500 and so it just through everything 2746 01:52:36,830 --> 01:52:34,139 um you know up on up on its head and the 2747 01:52:39,350 --> 01:52:36,840 previous 34 years of what I believed 2748 01:52:41,209 --> 01:52:39,360 about the topic and phenomenon um and 2749 01:52:42,770 --> 01:52:41,219 I've come to discover and so I've delved 2750 01:52:44,870 --> 01:52:42,780 in the last three years into the darker 2751 01:52:46,729 --> 01:52:44,880 side of it and I found there's a lot of 2752 01:52:49,250 --> 01:52:46,739 cases out there that tend to be hushed 2753 01:52:52,669 --> 01:52:49,260 up especially in Brazil there's a lot of 2754 01:52:54,530 --> 01:52:52,679 strange stuff going on in Brazil um I'm 2755 01:52:58,189 --> 01:52:54,540 sure you've heard of the um 2756 01:53:00,169 --> 01:52:58,199 the case um caloris Brazil the little 2757 01:53:02,090 --> 01:53:00,179 island off colors where they were coming 2758 01:53:04,729 --> 01:53:02,100 out of the Jungle and the water and 2759 01:53:08,109 --> 01:53:04,739 attacking people and stuff like that not 2760 01:53:14,330 --> 01:53:10,129 people would not come out of their 2761 01:53:15,530 --> 01:53:14,340 houses can you uh I mean I mean can you 2762 01:53:20,030 --> 01:53:15,540 imagine 2763 01:53:23,510 --> 01:53:20,040 that the entire town it's actually more 2764 01:53:26,750 --> 01:53:23,520 of a small City but caloris where you're 2765 01:53:28,370 --> 01:53:26,760 so freaked out that the story is if you 2766 01:53:30,950 --> 01:53:28,380 go outside you're going to get blasted 2767 01:53:32,689 --> 01:53:30,960 in the chest right 2768 01:53:35,450 --> 01:53:32,699 yeah 2769 01:53:38,030 --> 01:53:35,460 pretty scary and then it turned around 2770 01:53:42,590 --> 01:53:38,040 oh no they can shoot you through your 2771 01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:46,010 no matter what you do 2772 01:53:50,090 --> 01:53:48,350 imagine that all right that yeah that 2773 01:53:52,250 --> 01:53:50,100 would freaked me out 2774 01:53:54,109 --> 01:53:52,260 that's a scary scary thought and then 2775 01:53:56,270 --> 01:53:54,119 you've got little cases that pop up 2776 01:53:58,430 --> 01:53:56,280 every now and then human mutilation 2777 01:54:00,229 --> 01:53:58,440 cases now if you look at the cattle 2778 01:54:02,689 --> 01:54:00,239 mutilation cases if you believe that 2779 01:54:04,970 --> 01:54:02,699 that is a real phenomenon as well that's 2780 01:54:07,790 --> 01:54:04,980 not pleasant something coming down and 2781 01:54:10,970 --> 01:54:07,800 mutilating cattle something zapping 2782 01:54:13,189 --> 01:54:10,980 humans causing two humans to die and 2783 01:54:15,350 --> 01:54:13,199 several humans to die from repercussions 2784 01:54:17,450 --> 01:54:15,360 from the radiation they suffered in the 2785 01:54:18,770 --> 01:54:17,460 next couple of years from that Claris 2786 01:54:20,510 --> 01:54:18,780 incident 2787 01:54:21,770 --> 01:54:20,520 um you know there was another case in 2788 01:54:24,169 --> 01:54:21,780 Brazil as well 2789 01:54:26,870 --> 01:54:24,179 um where another guy got zapped and his 2790 01:54:27,770 --> 01:54:26,880 friend and then you know the lead masks 2791 01:54:29,930 --> 01:54:27,780 case 2792 01:54:31,370 --> 01:54:29,940 I believe that was Brazil as well and 2793 01:54:33,050 --> 01:54:31,380 they're up on the hill and they put the 2794 01:54:34,850 --> 01:54:33,060 mask on and there was a paper they found 2795 01:54:37,070 --> 01:54:34,860 and that's one of the most fascinating 2796 01:54:40,189 --> 01:54:37,080 cases because I always wonder what the 2797 01:54:42,830 --> 01:54:40,199 hell what was going on there 2798 01:54:45,709 --> 01:54:42,840 well um we have to we're at the end of 2799 01:54:49,070 --> 01:54:45,719 the show but you touched upon something 2800 01:54:53,030 --> 01:54:49,080 that uh earlier that I think is the most 2801 01:54:55,669 --> 01:54:53,040 important uh which is it's not one 2802 01:54:57,910 --> 01:54:55,679 single thing that is visiting us it's 2803 01:55:02,270 --> 01:54:57,920 not one species it's not one culture 2804 01:55:06,850 --> 01:55:02,280 it's infinite it's infinite it's got to 2805 01:55:08,470 --> 01:55:06,860 be it you know what I'm gonna Millions 2806 01:55:12,470 --> 01:55:08,480 Millions 2807 01:55:16,129 --> 01:55:12,480 there are literally trillions of planets 2808 01:55:19,430 --> 01:55:16,139 just in our Milky Way trillions does 2809 01:55:22,010 --> 01:55:19,440 anybody understand how big of a number a 2810 01:55:25,370 --> 01:55:22,020 trillion is you know what if I said that 2811 01:55:29,570 --> 01:55:25,380 there were a million planets a million 2812 01:55:33,350 --> 01:55:29,580 okay well now now 10 2813 01:55:36,709 --> 01:55:33,360 000 million how about 100 2814 01:55:38,709 --> 01:55:36,719 000 million right how about numbers are 2815 01:55:41,810 --> 01:55:38,719 just astronomical yeah 2816 01:55:45,770 --> 01:55:41,820 one million million 2817 01:55:47,870 --> 01:55:45,780 are you understanding me everybody so 2818 01:55:51,890 --> 01:55:47,880 who would be interested in this planet 2819 01:55:55,189 --> 01:55:51,900 Who would know about us an awful lot and 2820 01:55:59,350 --> 01:55:55,199 most of us may only be once 2821 01:56:02,149 --> 01:55:59,360 maybe just once they they do drive by 2822 01:56:04,910 --> 01:56:02,159 they check us out and then they're off 2823 01:56:06,590 --> 01:56:04,920 to the next planet and they're checking 2824 01:56:10,129 --> 01:56:06,600 that out because there's a lot more to 2825 01:56:13,609 --> 01:56:10,139 look at and that's maybe keeping an eye 2826 01:56:16,370 --> 01:56:13,619 on us oh this could be like the big 2827 01:56:18,229 --> 01:56:16,380 brother Universal big brother like a TV 2828 01:56:19,070 --> 01:56:18,239 show to them who knows like they're like 2829 01:56:21,530 --> 01:56:19,080 oh 2830 01:56:22,970 --> 01:56:21,540 because we are exciting you know we're 2831 01:56:25,370 --> 01:56:22,980 at war with each other all the time 2832 01:56:27,830 --> 01:56:25,380 we're blowing stuff up we're you know 2833 01:56:30,229 --> 01:56:27,840 it'll be a pretty crazy show uh 2834 01:56:31,850 --> 01:56:30,239 Universal big brother where you know 2835 01:56:33,890 --> 01:56:31,860 look at the crazy humans and what 2836 01:56:35,810 --> 01:56:33,900 they're up to you know 2837 01:56:41,209 --> 01:56:35,820 man we can't go by there Jimmy Church 2838 01:56:45,830 --> 01:56:43,669 watch me in the throat uh uh when you 2839 01:56:50,950 --> 01:56:45,840 see us next all right and uh 2840 01:56:55,129 --> 01:56:50,960 [Laughter] 2841 01:56:57,470 --> 01:56:55,139 when the movie comes out and the next 2842 01:57:00,290 --> 01:56:57,480 one too as well I want to get you back 2843 01:57:03,290 --> 01:57:00,300 on the show I can't wait to see it 2844 01:57:06,530 --> 01:57:03,300 um but uh absolutely thank you my friend 2845 01:57:08,510 --> 01:57:06,540 and and all the best to you and and just 2846 01:57:10,790 --> 01:57:08,520 just thank you for what you do all right 2847 01:57:12,229 --> 01:57:10,800 thank you likewise and thank you too 2848 01:57:13,430 --> 01:57:12,239 thank you so much and thank you for 2849 01:57:15,290 --> 01:57:13,440 having me on the show it's been an 2850 01:57:16,669 --> 01:57:15,300 absolute pleasure thank you so much I 2851 01:57:18,830 --> 01:57:16,679 really appreciate it thank you to your 2852 01:57:20,390 --> 01:57:18,840 audience as well 2853 01:57:22,550 --> 01:57:20,400 can you hear it 2854 01:57:24,589 --> 01:57:22,560 they're telling you to go outside and 2855 01:57:27,109 --> 01:57:24,599 film I I just heard that right now right 2856 01:57:29,649 --> 01:57:27,119 now they're they're above you 2857 01:57:33,050 --> 01:57:29,659 oh I got the tingle all right I'm going 2858 01:57:35,149 --> 01:57:33,060 perfect timing too it wouldn't surprise 2859 01:57:37,609 --> 01:57:35,159 me because I do see him sometimes after 2860 01:57:38,750 --> 01:57:37,619 podcast so yeah if I do I'll send you a 2861 01:57:41,810 --> 01:57:38,760 picture through 2862 01:57:44,390 --> 01:57:41,820 you're the best man have a great day 2863 01:57:46,970 --> 01:57:44,400 likewise now you take care pleasure 2864 01:57:49,070 --> 01:57:46,980 absolute pleasure thank you perfect show 2865 01:57:51,530 --> 01:57:49,080 thank you so much Jamie and Don Knott 2866 01:57:53,750 --> 01:57:51,540 and look I've got links to all of his 2867 01:57:56,930 --> 01:57:53,760 videos everything is below everything is 2868 01:57:59,390 --> 01:57:56,940 over on our website and we also have it 2869 01:58:01,129 --> 01:57:59,400 throughout social media that was a 2870 01:58:03,470 --> 01:58:01,139 perfect show thank you so much Damian 2871 01:58:06,229 --> 01:58:03,480 behave and be well go shoot me some 2872 01:58:07,910 --> 01:58:06,239 stuff go shoot me some stuff I want to 2873 01:58:11,030 --> 01:58:07,920 remind everybody tomorrow's a very 2874 01:58:13,609 --> 01:58:11,040 important show too as well just like 2875 01:58:16,790 --> 01:58:13,619 tonight tomorrow night John Greenwald is 2876 01:58:19,729 --> 01:58:16,800 going to be here from The Black Vault we 2877 01:58:20,689 --> 01:58:19,739 are going to take David grush front to 2878 01:58:24,410 --> 01:58:20,699 back 2879 01:58:26,330 --> 01:58:24,420 top to bottom to and fro hither and 2880 01:58:28,370 --> 01:58:26,340 tether we're gonna try to figure 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